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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior
 of their caller
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2025 16:37:59 -0400
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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On 7/13/25 11:48 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/12/2025 6:27 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/12/25 11:16 AM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/12/2025 5:52 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Fri, 11 Jul 2025 16:13:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 7/11/2025 3:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> As usual claims without evidence. If we do not change the input 
>>>>>> (which
>>>>>> aborts after a few cycles o simulation), then the simulating HHH 
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> reach the final halt state without abort.
>>>>
>>>>> It is a very easily verified fact that the input never aborts anything
>>>>> at all.
>>>>
>>>> Only because it is aborted in turn. 
>>>
>>> HHH(DDD) simulates its input until it sees that
>>> DDD cannot possibly stop running unless aborted.
>>
>> Then why does the direct execution of DDD halt?
>>
> 
> The direct execution is a different sequence of steps
> because it is reaping the benefits of HHH having already
> aborted its own input.
> 

So?

What step in HHHs correct simulation differed from the direct execution?

If there is none, then you can't claim that it was different.

It seems you think you can run a marathon by taking a couple of steps 
from the starting line and then giving up.

Sorry, you are just proving you are just a liar.