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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zionazi <marcs12212@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.recordings Subject: Re: Antisemite Piers Morgan Hosting and being friendly to a Hamas guy, yet not letting a Jew speak Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 05:08:06 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <82087aeef002b3cd9a1d1329e627f09e@www.novabbs.com> References: <78d0bd15d2b01ce2e19d277cd11f4c5b@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3205892"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="eF/RVKLh6aEp9s+BK8BYt5fEoUMxZQLVFJ5zi19LlgQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$4R9G6/OYn/ZO5Wr/utEST.uBl4CNGY9GcL9sngr.Y1d7Wh7vzvQiq X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: b8ea6db213d7f55d7e0ffe462de55ace7b9a5d91 „One of your best responses yet Mr. Spencer. Piers has been trying to straddle the moral fence and doesn't realize his balls have been ripped off by the barbed wire because he couldn't take a moral stance. Piers should be required to take a class on military theory in order to continue his broadcast. Oh, and did he ever watch the footage from October 7th? 🙄“ Hahahaha https://x.com/OnceAnAngel18/status/1928926702270640385 In Reference to: „. @piersmorgan You say you support Israel’s right to defend itself after Oct 7—but now call its actions “beyond proportionate.” That only proves you still don’t understand what “proportionate” means in the laws of war. Your question is valid. But you haven’t asked me—or any serious scholar of war. Try Victor Davis Hanson, LTG (ret) H.R. McMaster, Sir Andrew Roberts, Lawrence Freedman. Ask us what proportionality means in actual war—not on talk shows. Proportionality in war isn’t tit-for-tat. It’s not "you killed 1,000 so you can kill 1,000." It means that the expected harm to civilians cannot be excessive in relation to the concrete military advantage anticipated. So what’s Israel’s objective? The total defeat of Hamas—a terror army that invaded its territory, slaughtered civilians, took hostages, and is still firing rockets, using tunnels, hiding behind civilians. The value of that military objective? National survival. Israel has made extensive efforts to reduce civilian harm: notification, evacuations, precautions, humanitarian corridors, aid deliveries—despite Hamas actively sabotaging them. The IDF targets fighters. Hamas puts civilians in harm’s way on purpose. You often imply there must be another way. History agrees—there was another way. For example: Egypt could have temporarily taken in civilians into safe zones in the Sinai, enabling Israel to fight Hamas without their uses as the civilian deaths as their primary strategy. But instead, the world demanded Israel fight a genocidal terror army without displacing civilians—essentially giving Hamas human shields by design. You continue to repeat Hamas's talking points: blurring combatant vs. noncombatant, ignoring the laws Hamas systematically violates, and judging Israel’s actions without context—military or moral. So I ask again: What exactly would you have Israel do? Given Hamas’s size, strength, tunnel network, embedded positions in dense urban terrain, continued rocket fire, and the hostages it still holds—what is your real alternative? Say it clearly. Because vague moralism won’t defeat Hamas. Clarity and courage might.“