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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities -- I reread this again more carefully Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:01:07 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <823be6ed90ec04ff70b3a90da3a793cfeb783e62@i2pn2.org> References: <v7gl30$3j9fi$1@dont-email.me> <v7h1fl$3lcvq$3@dont-email.me> <v7h224$3li66$3@dont-email.me> <e975eef57ba6d3d4cc790818c05b7165443f7ce4@i2pn2.org> <v7h5b2$3m6kq$2@dont-email.me> <73e4850d3b48903cf85b2967ba713aced98caf96@i2pn2.org> <v7h9on$3muu0$1@dont-email.me> <09536cf44fc4c3d14b37641cf8fdc9e8a8c24580@i2pn2.org> <v7hept$3o0be$1@dont-email.me> <97884acd35091ddd67bda892c7a3dd28e188f760@i2pn2.org> <v7hftt$3o7r5$1@dont-email.me> <f74209ef7d87b6f7891e4a2b89cc18bfe7233810@i2pn2.org> <v7hkb2$3otgn$1@dont-email.me> <1c5729ae6d0a7bca84d24eec9f85bf30de70e3d9@i2pn2.org> <v7hnu6$3pd9s$1@dont-email.me> <f0dda3e0d0e85081d8ce0cdd494f5f1f8f8c89e3@i2pn2.org> <v7huen$3u1jc$3@dont-email.me> <6883b0a9674975998092c404f9eaa331ad1556b9@i2pn2.org> <v7i20r$3ucnd$1@dont-email.me> <8e0bcb6d7508f8334460e30557d444abc5356a03@i2pn2.org> <v7kocc$gi50$1@dont-email.me> <96b8781159b3dc7f2f65dae62c89ffa0c8ef2fc4@i2pn2.org> <v7lkd5$laot$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 00:01:07 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="21997"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <v7lkd5$laot$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3970 Lines: 76 On 7/22/24 8:47 AM, olcott wrote: > On 7/22/2024 6:27 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 7/22/24 12:49 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 7/21/2024 6:37 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 7/21/24 12:15 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 7/20/2024 10:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No, the SIMULA*TION* stops running, the SIMULATED (which is the >>>>>> actual program) behaviof continues. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes you are clueless. >>>>> >>>>> void DDD() >>>>> { >>>>> HHH(DDD); >>>>> return; >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> When the simulation stops running the whole program >>>>> exits to the operating system. >>>> >>>> >>>> Which just shows you don't understand the MEANING of the behavior of >>>> a program. >>>> >>>> Behvior is the UNCHANING attribute of what the program does when it >>>> is run. As such, aborting a simulation of it doesn't stop behavior. >>>> >>> >>> *You are still totally clueless* >>> >>> As soon as HHH(DDD) aborts its simulation HHH immediately >>> exits to the operating system. >>> >> >> No it return to its caller, or it isn't a decider. >> > > void DDD() > { > HHH(DDD); > return; > } > > int main() > { > HHH(DDD); > } > > Unlike you I can admit my mistake. > > As soon as HHH(DDD) aborts its simulation HHH immediately > returns to main() and > exits to the operating system. Right, and thus the HHH that DDD calls will return to DDD and DDD will halt. THAT is the definition of the behavior of DDD. That HHH only sees part of it in its PARTIAL (and thus INCORRECT) emulation just means it doesn't get the knowledge it needs of the right answer. You are just showing your ignorance of the words you use. "Behavior" is an attribute of the program (with ITS input), and not some other machines idea about it. The partial emulation that HHH does is part of the behavior of HHH, and reveals just PART of the behavior of the input DDD. > > Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer >