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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Battery (SLA) modeling Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:23:26 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <82roljdcepbps2or1vlqq3ll0qnkhvgadm@4ax.com> References: <vjgltr$394qj$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:23:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="323d0d5427e67a9d9cf7ac20e03c6a3d"; logging-data="3716924"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1890SjozZPz7tuHZONZccYG" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+x2ejG4yk2f0ZvFsXp4wV/sqDQo= Bytes: 1638 On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 23:57:54 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >At a fixed time and temperature, is it safe to model a battery as a >fixed voltage source behind a series resistance? Possibly, additionally, >a parallel RC to cover transients? > >In particular, does the model need to change based on whether the >battery is being charged or discharged? (i.e., to estimate that >series resistance) I've wondered about electro-chemical time lags, ions drifting around in liquids, as in what would the Spice model of some battery be? And on a slower time scale, the morphology of a battery changes with time. Nearly discharged batteries sure go Hi-Z. What we need here is a good physical chemistry guy.