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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: "Starter Villain" by John Scalzi Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 09:22:19 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: <82vu1k1rt6ge21f02mbduvtu3kcn6bdpnt@4ax.com> References: <vvbh3k$1iak0$1@dont-email.me> <vvg59o$14vdf$1@dont-email.me> <vvjfje$28erq$2@dont-email.me> <1kas1kti9i2n8ut7e3ijlcndnc38eapins@4ax.com> <vvlequ$obs$1@panix2.panix.com> <vvlpe0$3174a$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 18:22:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="edca99b0c63167f037489272c9c0932a"; logging-data="3813432"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX181yXGcPvCm+G5FQmVn+weoj6izWaBUhWU=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:yivNY68/6RO196+e1tTemFUrelo= Bytes: 3793 On Fri, 9 May 2025 16:43:44 -0400, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >On 5/9/2025 1:42 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> But I find it hard to believe that companies which, for example, hire >>> workers to collect trash/recycle/yard waste, are looking for H1B visa >>> holders. Most people, I suspect, can find a job without facing any >>> such problem. >>=20 >> The H1B system is completely broken because people like Mr. Musk have >> figured out how to game the system. >>=20 >> The original premise was a really good one: allow the best of the best >> into America to work for American companies. The problem is that = folks >> in the IT world figured out how to make low-level software developers >> look like the best of the best, and those companies managed to get = most >> of the limited number of slots. >>=20 >> So, first of all you have a bunch of low-level software guys coming to= work >> in the US (who probably -are- displacing Americans from positions) and >> their companies control their visas so they have no ability to leave = their >> jobs without leaving their companies. This is, of course, a recipe = for >> employee mistreatment. >>=20 >> But even worse from my perspective is that since all of those slots = are >> taken, it's impossible to get actual experts into the country on an = H1B. >> We'd like to hire a world-class coatings chemist from India. A local >> university would like to hire a guy with a Nobel prize. But it's not >> possible to get an H1B for these people because they are full up. >>=20 >> Severe reform of the system is needed but unfortunately the fox is = running >> the henhouse. >> --scott >>=20 > >As a former SW Engineer who was very much affected by this (my solution >was to work for defense contractors, who couldn't employ non-citizens), >I've thought quite a bit about this. > >My solution, ironically, is tariffs. If there was a $50,000/year tariff >for each H1B brought in, companies would only bring in the actual 'best >of the best'. Perhaps, instead of a "tariff", it should be an "annual visa renewal fee". To be paid by the employer. With non-profits exempt. /And/ a requirement to pay them the same wage they pay US citizens of comparable skills/education for the same job. But voiding all the visas and sending them to who-knows-where would probably be more attractive to Trump. Gotta deport more per month than Biden did! --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"