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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
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Subject: Re: The HOAX of the neutrino invention. After 95 years don't know shit.
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 19:16:53 +0000
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On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 17:22:11 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 15:46:44 +0000, gharnagel wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 13:29:23 +0000, rhertz wrote:
> > >
> > > From where does the extra energy that appeared due to the blue
> shifting
> > > of the laser beam in 100 meters?
> > >
> > > Go ahead, EXPLAIN THIS VIOLATION OF THE LCE.
> >
> > There is no violation.  You have ignored an energy input: The laser
> > is at a higher gravitational potential than the receiver.  Either
> > ignorantly or intentionally, you have ignored that potential energy
> > energy in your calculation.  Total energy is H = T + V.
> >
> > In your situation, T = 0 but there is still V.  Consider a
> modification
> > of your experiment.  The laser is sitting on a lunar mare and shoots
> > its pulse horizontally to a lunar rover with a receiver.  The mare is
> > flat so V = 0, but the rover is moving toward the laser and receives
> > a blue-shifted pulse.  Where did the extra energy come from?  Doppler
> > shift, of course: T > 0.  Whether the Doppler shift is due to relative
> > velocity or gravitation, energy is conserved.
> >
> > "By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox."
> > -- Galileo Galilei

> You are a complete imbecile by supporting general relativity,
> gravitational time dilation and shit like that.

The proof I showed doesn't use either, so you are arguing a straw man.

> You accept the LIE of a connection between gravity and electromagnetism,
> asshole.

Simple Newtonian physics, mon ami.

> You are completely sold out to relativity, even when you don't know shit
> about this.

No relativity in it.

> Explain the mechanisms by which GRAVITATIONAL POTENTIAL is transformed
> into ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY (E=hf), AKA as blue-shifting. Also explain
> the INVERSE: How come electromagnetic energy transform into
> gravitational potential (red-shifting).

Apparently, you are completely ignorant of the Pound-Reka
experiment:

"The Pound–Rebka experiment monitored frequency shifts in
gamma rays as they rose and fell in the gravitational field
of the Earth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound%E2%80%93Rebka_experiment

Your silliness is becoming quite boring.  The P-K experiment
demonstrates that gravitational potential energy IS converted
to EM energy.  It doesn't matter WHAT the mechanism is, because
IT HAPPENS.  Of course, your only defense is denial that the
results of that experiment were accurate and there was no shift.
That's the only way you can maintain your corrupt belief system.

It is also a fact that gamma rays are produced when matter meets
antimatter.  So matter disappears and EM radiation is created.

In fact, just heating up normal matter causes it to emit EM
radiation.  Matter is potential energy, so V is converted into T.
Why do you accept that matter can be converted into EMR but choke
up when it is demonstrated that gravitational potential energy
is converted to EMR?

> You don't know? Of course that you don't. NOBODY KNOWS, BUT
> ACCEPT THIS SHIT IN SILENCE AND COMPLETE SUBMISSION TO RELATIVISM,
> which you said that is used in engineering on a daily basis.

As you can see, I'm not at all silent because I understand physics
(at least enough so I can get to the P-K experiment and back without
breaking a leg).

> The above is just one more proof of your qualification as a gullible
> idiot.

I'm afraid you just proved that you are the gullible idiot :-))

You have brainwashed yourself for some reason.  I don't know why
you've done this. Perhaps you are incapable of logical thought beyond
some basic level, so you deny that it can possibly exist.  Or maybe
you have the same mental defect that Maciej does.  Such behaviors
are the REAL things that are totally unknown.

Here's the P-K story:

https://www.physics.harvard.edu/sites/g/files/omnuum6476/files/physics/files/2021-pound-rebka.pdf

I'm sure you'll be able to rationalize it in your own venal mind.

"Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal."
-- Robert A. Heinlein

“We defined thinking as integrating data and arriving at correct
answers….  Most people do that stunt just well enough to get to
the corner store and back without breaking a leg.”
-- Robert A. Heinlein