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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: Usenet newsgroups portals
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:23:18 +0000
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 21:12:16 +0000, MummyChunk wrote:

>> Will Dockery wrote:
>> Retro Guy wrote:
>>
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>> Retro Guy wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>
>>> Another good Usenet newsgroups portal is JLA Forums:
>>>
>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=655
>>>
>>> I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which sometimes
>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
>>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those using a
>>> newsreader.
>>>
>>> Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the thread,
>>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in newsreaders.
>>>
>>> How's it looking, Retro Guy?
>>>
>>> I'm not very well versed in these matters so I can't judge properly.
>>>
>>> This reply that you just made looks fine, but I think you wrote this
>>> from novaBBS.
>>>
>>> If you scroll up in this thread to posts from Will-Dockery, you will see
>>> lines like:
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Sorry, I typed and posted this during a Christmas party
>>> yesterday, and
>>> the typo slipped in.
>>>
>>> Consider it hereby corrected:
>>>
>>> Where 'yesterday, and' is wrapped to a new line without quoting. It
>>> breaks the quoting.
>>>
>>> Another above:
>>>
>>> I just wish they would fix their line wrap in quoting, which
>>> sometimes
>>> produces broken quote lines, and that they would produce proper
>>> references headers so that threading worked properly for those
>>> using a
>>> newsreader.
>>>
>>> Usually, everything shows as a reply to the first article in the
>>> thread,
>>> not the actual article being replied to, so no threading in
>>> newsreaders.
>>>
>>>
>>> where a bunch of lines have the same issue.
>>>
>>> Jlaforum wraps the lines, but does not maintain the quote level, so they
>>> look a mess in a newsreader (and novaBBS). Then when someone quotes that
>>> in a newsreader, it looks like a bunch of lines are written by a
>>> previous poster, not the person who actually quoted them. It's a mess.
>>>
>>> It seems Jlaforum using web forum software that does not understand
>>>> ' or
>>>> '
>>> ' which is completely useless outside of the web forum
>>> software, and looks a mess in a newsreader.
>>>
>>> Basically, Jlaforum does not maintain Usenet quoting standards, and also
>>> does not seem to maintain Usenet 'References: ' headers properly, which
>>> results in replies looking like they are to a different post than the
>>> really are. So a newsreader can only go by this and it breaks threading
>>> in a newsreader.
>>>
>>> Plus, the dates are wrong, or at least they are not accurate, as they
>>> are the date/time when the post was sent to giganews, not the date/time
>>> when the user posted it. So when Jlaforum dumps their posts to giganews,
>>> all the posts each dump get the same timestamp.
>>>
>>> Not great for Usenet groups, but the software they use isn't made for
>>> Usenet groups.
>>
>> Can these problems be corrected?
>
>
>
> What problems?

For me, there are dozens of poems I posted back in 2003 that aren't
showing up as part of the JLA Forums archives currently:

http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=662

> This is a response to the post seen at:
> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=680754858#680754858