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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Albert in Relativityland Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 21:06:22 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <84672d1fe0950fcbe78b9b715e261671@www.novabbs.com> References: <3ce0bf632f46843f8cc0a3f45fdc0acd@www.novabbs.com> <vshcgq$3ojsg$3@dont-email.me> <795a3195162645246d7e9e786d2036ff@www.novabbs.com> <vsiuqq$1bsmo$2@dont-email.me> <d0be5ca5054bb07de26f5d86274ce629@www.novabbs.com> <vsliu4$52m4$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3004495"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$V92rBCZI0LlUfOoljfkLYeTNr3meTSE3z/c2eS1Pa4uNYJwqd7eqq Bytes: 3017 Lines: 56 On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 9:08:46 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 02.04.2025 20:25, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 9:13:22 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: >> >>> Den 01.04.2025 21:28, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>>> Relativity is so fallacious that a person with only knowledge of >>>> elementary logic and an 85 I.Q. is qualified to refute it. > >>> >>> Is it because of your 85 I.Q. and knowledge of elementary >>> logic that your comment to my statement: >>> >>> "The speed of muons is v = ~ 0.999668⋅c through the atmosphere >>> which also is within the laboratory with open roof." >>> >>> was: >>> >>> "THEN, the time dilation must be the same." ? > > How slow is it possible to be? :-D > > My statement was: > "There is but one speed v = ~ 0.999668⋅c" > > your response was: > "THEN, the time dilation must be the same." > > GET this: The statement: > "When an object has a speed v, then time dilation must be the same" > > is an idiotic, nonsensical, meaningless, stupid response. > > > >> Paul, the math does not cause time dilation. When the speed is the same >> in both places, what is the cause? You have no idea > > And you repeat your nonsensical statement yet again! > > > The measured mean lifetime of a stationary muon is 2.2 μs > The measured mean lifetime of a muon moving at 0.999668⋅c is 85.36 μs. > > These are measured facts, not math. > > Can you give another interpretation of the facts than "time dilation"? > > I did not say the time dilation must be the same for the same speed. I asked why relativity says it's different. What is the alleged cause? When are you going to try to understand? Time dilation is not a difference in lifetime. I never denied the measured lifetimes. I only disagreed with your interpretation that it is time dilation. They just live longer. But why?