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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies
 non-terminating behavior to HHH
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:53:22 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:16:30 -0600 schrieb olcott:
> On 2/15/2025 2:49 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-02-14 12:40:04 +0000, olcott said:
>>> On 2/14/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-14 00:07:23 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>> On 2/13/2025 3:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 04:21:34 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>> On 2/12/2025 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-11 14:41:38 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Of course not. However, the fact that no reference to that
>>>>>>>>>> article before or when HHH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That paper and its code are the only thing that I have been
>>>>>>>>> talking about in this forum for several years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doesn't matter when you don't say that you are talking about that
>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>> Anyway, that is irrelevant to the fact that the subject line
>>>>>>>> contains a false claim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a truism and not one person on the face of the Earth can
>>>>>>> possibly show otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that the claim on subject line is false is not a truism.
>>>>>> In order to determine the claim is false one needs some knowledge
>>>>>> that is not obvious.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you try to show the steps attempting to show that it is false I
>>>>> will point out the error.
>>>>
>>>> Step 1: Find people who know C.
>>>> Step 2: Show them DD of OP and ask.
>>>>
>>>>> This is the only topic that I will discuss and any
>>>
>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>> int DD()
>>> {
>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>> }
>>> int main()
>>> {
>>>    HHH(DD);
>>> }
>>>
>>> DD  correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally.
>> 
>> That claim has already shown to be false. Nothing above shows that HHH
>> does not return 0. If it does DD also returns 0.
>> 
> When we know that DD is simulated by HHH we know that HHH cannot
> possibly return to this DD as long as we have at least a little
> competence in the C language.
If we also had a little competence in theory, we would know that
HHH is not a decider if it doesn’t return.

-- 
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.