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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: OT ; Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 14:19:49 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <851708060.749423067.699188.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vdegh3$29fjc$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 23:19:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3a721c7ebb47ce1144e932a9b0bdb2de"; logging-data="2520151"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2GC3DudRbbskGRA8RwJ94" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.3.1 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EpRq6/sQq2dM5NT9bN2C5rpiUK0= sha1:TA+QS90zYI/LT9IW1X1hHyA8Wdc= Bytes: 2319 Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: That’s the problem with present-day China. The CCP demands to be the only source of authority, and can’t tolerate competition from religion. I’m convinced that it was the conflicts between the popes and the temporal rulers led directly to democracy in the West. Other civilizations subordinated religion to the temporal rulers. Byzantine patriarchs answered to the emperors. Moslem imams answered to the cailifs, etc. so there was no one to object to what the rulers wanted. -- Pete