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Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: "Trip report: June 2025 ISO C++ standards meeting (Sofia, Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 01:06:48 +0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <85b4b6a000e4cea90ca07dd75bd01b63715b9040.camel@gmail.com> References: <103a7kk$qri0$2@dont-email.me> <103gd2r$2lqoe$1@dont-email.me> <20250625164839.000004b5@yahoo.com> <103h2sf$2rb11$1@dont-email.me> <ZIU6Q.130533$wybc.75864@fx17.iad> <103h604$2s3vq$1@dont-email.me> <103hh5j$2ui1d$1@dont-email.me> <103ivnj$3btbj$1@dont-email.me> <103jimj$3g1be$1@dont-email.me> <c6c7eeec9a6993ca2d49bfadd02fb2162531c939.camel@gmail.com> <103m2bi$57rm$1@dont-email.me> <cf025fc0e724460f3db59f594e2c32ff9f5a8b94.camel@gmail.com> <103p27d$u96j$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 19:06:49 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b79204b0ebef8fa28c9a803dae9806f1"; logging-data="988269"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18k0+VVabp33vdoriG7kw9E" User-Agent: Evolution 3.56.2 (3.56.2-1.fc42) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JPoBb2ZXxAKM3T4P+rKU/5rKtFE= In-Reply-To: <103p27d$u96j$1@dont-email.me> On Sat, 2025-06-28 at 15:37 +0000, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 14:58:26 +0800 > wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> gabbled: > > On Fri, 2025-06-27 at 12:21 +0000, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org=C2=A0wrote: > > > A multi platform language has no business having something like graph= ics =3D > > built > > > in. There are too many variations on different systems and some don't= hav=3D > > e > > > graphics at all. Also unless you release a new version of C++ everyti= me e=3D > > g > > > NVidia updates the Cuda functionality then you'll have to use librari= es a=3D > > nyway. > >=20 > > There are various level of 'graphics'. > > The point is a 'C++ graphics' so that a C++ program can draw Shape (as = C++ =3D > > demo > > its OO capability). It would be just like cout, you don't need to worry= abo=3D > > ut > > what the low level stuff is. >=20 > "Just draw" the shape where? In the console using text characters? In the > desktop background? In a window? What creates the window for you and what= =20 > properties will it have?=20 > I'm guessing you've never done graphics programming. You might as well= =20 > suggest C++ has built in sound. Why not, if a C++ book demonstrated an example: int main() { utter << "Hellow, world"; }; Nope, because "..There are too many variations on different systems and som= e don't have..."?