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Subject: Re: Carriers are only slowly adapting to iOS 18 beta RCS integration
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 16:55:09 +0100
Organization: Frantic
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Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> writes:

> On 25.06.24 15:00, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-06-25 04:22, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 25.06.24 um 09:33 schrieb Harry S Robins:
>>>> https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/24/ios-18-rcs-iphone-beta/
>>>>
>>>> No signs of RCS were seen in the first beta of iOS 18 released earlier this
>>>> month. However, the second beta of iOS 18 released on Monday added a new
>>>> RCS toggle in the Settings app, at least for some users. This has made beta
>>>> testers wonder why some of them aren't seeing the toggle, or even why the
>>>> feature isn't working despite the toggle being turned on.
>>>>
>>>> Well, we now have the answer.
>>>>
>>>> As seen by 9to5Mac in the iOS 18 beta 2 code, RCS support on the iPhone
>>>> relies on Apple working with carrier partners to get them to update their
>>>> bundles shipped with iOS. Right now, only a few carriers (such as AT&T and
>>>> T-Mobile in the US) have updated their carrier bundles to support RCS on
>>>> the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, there's still time for more carriers to work on enabling RCS
>>>> support on the iPhone by September, when iOS 18 will be available to the
>>>> public. But at the same time, this means that most beta users probably
>>>> won't be able to test the new feature.
>>>
>>> There is no reasonable scenario where iPhone users need RCS.
>>>
>>> I have it on my Pixel 7 with the provider Salt here in Switzerland and I
>>> seriously have the impression Apple is just implementing it to get rid
>>> of the endless Google-jammering.
>> 
>> As usual you babble from your singular point of view.
>
> You do not understand what I'm talking about.
>
>> As I have contacts who use Android machines we're forced to use other 
>> means to exchange sensitive info (usually Signal).  Thankfully this is 
>> not all that often.
>
> *Signal is not RCS*. Signal is a highly encrypted messenger. And that
> kind of application is the way to go and not *RCS*.
>
>>> RCS is security-wise even not second rate and just a nightmare.
>> 
>> Apple plan to implement encrypted RCS.  Whether this will be available 
>> for the Sept. release is not clear.
>
> Irrelevant. RCS has *always* an unwanted man-in-the-middle.

RCS can support end to end encryption.