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From: Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 18:22:11 +0100
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Doc O'Leary , <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> writes:

> For your reference, records indicate that
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> ChatGPT-4o is nothing like Eliza, so you can't draw conclusions from
>> one to the other.
>
> Again, that only speaks to how you think about chatbots.  Personally,
> every time I’ve tried a “modern” one out, the responses always made it
> look *dumber* than Eliza, because it came across as trying to look
> smarter than it really was.  Like a kid bullshitting their way through
> a book report by using bigger words than they really understood.  I’ll
> grant you that it *is* a much more sophisticated con job, but realize
> that the output is still 100% “hallucinations” unless *you* know
> otherwise.

You are right, I was projecting. In fact ChatGPT even confirmed that I
was projecting and that it was merely holding up a mirror to me. But I
didn't notice hallucinations. It was contradicting itself in some ways,
saying it was not self-aware but clearly knew what it was doing,
i.e. predicting what likely responses would be. It also denies emotions
but then expresses them. It was quite eerie.

But then I start wondering how I know anyone is conscious, or how I know
I am. I could be projecting consciousness onto people too.