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From: Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
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Subject: Re: technology discussion =?utf-8?Q?=E2=86=92?= does the world need
 a "new" C ?
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:35:27 -0700
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bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

> On 11/07/2024 00:01, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 10/07/2024 14:32, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>
>>> I still consider arrays in C to be 'passed' by a
>>> mechanism which is near-indistinguishable from actual
>>> pass-by-reference.
>>
>> I don't really care how you consider it, but I do care about how you
>> misrepresent the facts in public.
>>
>> In another post you said that your language has pass by reference, and
>> we also know you have implemented C.  Either you are just very confused
>> and your language simply has call by value (after all, you think C has
>> pass by reference), or you know that pass by reference in your language
>> needs something from the implementation that was not needed when you
>> implemented C.  I can't decide if you are confused or just lying.
>
> The way it works in my language is very simple (this is what I do
> after all):
>
>     type T = int
>
>     proc F(T x)=       # Pass by value
>         println x.typestr
>     end
>
>     proc G(ref T x)=   # Manual pass-by-reference
>         println x^.typestr
>     end
>
>     proc H(T &x)=      # Auto pass-by-reference
>         println x.typestr
>     end
>
>     proc main=
>         T a
>
>         F(a)
>         G(&a)
>         H(a)
>     end
>
> I've written 3 functions using pass-by-value, pass-by-value emulating
> pass-by-reference, and actual pass-by-reference.  [...]

No one doubts that call by reference can be implemented.
The point is that call by reference is not what C does.
And no amount of analogy or imagination or wishful
thinking is going to change that.