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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Baby X is bor nagain Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 10:54:09 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <86a5jijfwe.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <v494f9$von8$1@dont-email.me> <v49seg$14cva$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v49t6f$14i1o$1@dont-email.me> <v4bcbj$1gqlo$1@raubtier-asyl.eternal-september.org> <v4bh56$1hibd$1@dont-email.me> <v4c0mg$1kjmk$1@dont-email.me> <v4c8s4$1lki1$4@dont-email.me> <20240613002933.000075c5@yahoo.com> <v4emki$28d1b$1@dont-email.me> <20240613174354.00005498@yahoo.com> <v4okn9$flpo$2@dont-email.me> <20240617002924.597@kylheku.com> <20240617122527.0000559d@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 19:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d4aeba7b4aaab0d94b94221c1561c3e8"; logging-data="1536444"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/y8BPhdtzy7o6Z4rCYQGZSPdhLGC/vzOw=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VMEwAABsB+dsy6VcpI2ZplCDSIw= sha1:Pa8K87Rj9yxKxHtTO+mYh9dPqIU= Bytes: 3303 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 07:30:44 -0000 (UTC) > Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wrote: > >> On 2024-06-17, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: >> >>> The problem is that Bart's compiler is VERY unusual. It's >>> customized for his use, and he has lots of quirks in the way he >>> thinks compilers should work, which are very different from those >>> of most other programmers. In particular, compilation speed is very >>> important to him, while execution speed is almost completely >>> unimportant, which is pretty much the opposite of the way most >>> programmers prioritize those things. >> >> Most programmers use Javascript and Python, which follow Bart's >> priorities. Fast, invisible compilation to some kind of byte code >> (plus possibly later JIT), slow execution time. > > I'd dare to say that most programmers care about speed of compilation > more than they care about speed of execution even (or especially) when > they use "visible" compilation processes. Except when compilation is > already very fast. > BTW, my impression was that Bart's 'C' compiler uses 'visible' > compilation. > > Then again, neither speed of compilation nor speed of execution are top > priorities for most pros. My guess is that #1 priority is conformance > with co-workers/employer, #2 is convenient IDE, preferably integrated > with debugger, #3 is support, but there is big distance between #2, and > #3. #4 are religious issues of various forms. Speed of compilation is at > best #5. I agree that speed of compilation is nowhere near the top of my list, and probably that is true for many or most other developers as well. I suspect that what the start of the list looks like, both in terms of what items appear and in what order, varies a fair amount between different developers and different groups.