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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?) Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 07:32:39 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <86jzcjo1uw.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <memo.20241128153105.12904U@jgd.cix.co.uk> <20241128185548.000031c9@yahoo.com> <vidtpt$pon$1@gal.iecc.com> <2024Nov30.072829@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.123536@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vieuks$1n5ve$1@dont-email.me> <2024Nov30.175756@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130193206.00005c49@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.190858@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130202851.00005eca@yahoo.com> <2024Dec1.102826@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vihqbd$2hnrp$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 16:32:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4e58a9feca4aaad72226633a33b07410"; logging-data="2700829"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+um8ZzuofeA0O6xHsPD7hy1Zp4lsW7YPU=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2WhC2GN/0r+wTJnurP58K2Ny2OA= sha1:W621h1rFgtvxLh0brIjzy3Sbayw= Bytes: 2382 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes: > I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition > for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000. > It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark > on the latter). To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on such characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and not depend on features of a particular implementation. The 360/30 has a 32-bit (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only an 8-bit implementation. If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings in a group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely ignore the distinction between architecture and implementation. I don't mind comments about matters of implementation, but the constant blurring (or erasing) of the line between architecture and implementation often makes it nearly impossible to have a discussion just about architecture.