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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel... Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:51:04 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 61 Message-ID: <86seu0d7br.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <vaqgtl$3526$1@dont-email.me> <p1cvdjpqjg65e6e3rtt4ua6hgm79cdfm2n@4ax.com> <2024Sep10.101932@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <ygn8qvztf16.fsf@y.z> <2024Sep11.123824@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbsoro$3ol1a$1@dont-email.me> <867cbhgozo.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20240912142948.00002757@yahoo.com> <vbuu5n$9tue$1@dont-email.me> <20240915001153.000029bf@yahoo.com> <vc6jbk$5v9f$1@paganini.bofh.team> <20240915154038.0000016e@yahoo.com> <vc70sl$285g2$4@dont-email.me> <vc73bl$28v0v$1@dont-email.me> <OvEFO.70694$EEm7.38286@fx16.iad> <32a15246310ea544570564a6ea100cab@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="393c6de94aad5c3a9db23639212fcd5c"; logging-data="2464417"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18QLgzz7svNKLmK2eExQnub61U4zjUq3Wo=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4NpuL+3T7Nc+efvkI8hKkbNaVFI= sha1:LsutqMBvs1A4nDNqITldfCgyGGc= Bytes: 3823 mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) writes: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:07:58 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On 2024-09-15 12:09 p.m., David Brown wrote: >>> >>>>> In addition, some padding-related things can be defined by Standard >>>>> itself. Not in this particular case, but, for example, it could be >>>>> defined that when field of one integer type is immediately followed by >>>>> another field of integer type with the same or narrower width then >>>>> there should be no padding in-between. >>>>> >>>> >>> What about bit-fields in a struct? I believe they are usually packed. In >>> case its for something like an I/O device. >> >> That's a bit more complicated as it depends on the target byte-order. >> >> e.g. >> >> struct GIC_ECC_INT_STATUSR_s { >> #if __BYTE_ORDER == __BIG_ENDIAN >> uint64_t reserved_41_63 : 23; >> uint64_t dbe : 9; >> uint64_t reserved_9_31 : 23; >> uint64_t sbe : 9; >> #else >> uint64_t sbe : 9; >> uint64_t reserved_9_31 : 23; >> uint64_t dbe : 9; >> uint64_t reserved_41_63 : 23; >> #endif >> } s; > > Which brings to mind a slight different but related bit-field issue. > > If one has an architecture that allows a bit-field to span a register > sized container, how does one specify that bit-field in C ?? > > So, assume a register contains 64-bits and we have a 17-bit field > starting at bit 53 and continuing to bit 69 of a 128-bit struct. > How would one "properly" specify this in C. The 17-bit bitfied can be specified in the usual way. Example: struct bitfield_example { unsigned one : 32; unsigned two : 20; unsigned hmm : 17; }; An implementation is allowed to use up the last 12 bits of the first 64-bit unit and the first 5 bits of the next 64-bit unit. But, whether that happens or not is up to the implementation. The bitfield for member 'hmm' could instead be put entirely in the second 64-bit unit, with the last 12 bits of the first 64-bit unit simply left as padding. There is no standard way to force it.