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From: Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
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Subject: Re: Modeling the origins of life: New evidence for an 'RNA World'
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:17:30 +0000
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j.nobel.daggett@gmail.com (LDagget) writes:

> Richmond wrote:
>
>> John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> JTEM has his own vocabulary. By "evolution" he means the modern
>>> synthesis, also called (which JTEM would detest) neoDarwinism. What he
>>> seeks to attach Darwin's name to is Lysenkoism or neoLamarckism. If
>>> you make all those switches what he says is more or less correct.
>>>
>>> Not sure whether Mao or the CCP adopted Lysenkoism, but it doesn't
>>> seem out of the question.
>>>
>
>> The phrase "survival of the fittest" has always seemed suspect to me. We
>> hear it repeated to justify capitalism. But there isn't any requirement
>> to be 'fit' as far as I can see. There is only a requirement (for genes)
>> to survive. For example the camel which sits on the calf of its rival
>> and crushes it to death, or the chimpanzee which kills and eats the
>> infant offspring of its rivals. In what way is it 'fit'? A biologist
>> would define it as merely fit to survive, but then the phrase becomes
>> redundant as survival of the survivor. And we see the same results in
>> captialism with corporations swallowing up rivals rather than competing
>> with them.
>
> You want to argue against a metaphor by considering it literally.

It's not a metaphor.


>That
> is some mix of dishonest, foolish, and stupid.

Oh please fuck off.