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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 17:18:53 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 55 Message-ID: <871pzktb2q.fsf@jemoni.to> References: <672e9b2c@news.ausics.net> <vgn0mm$3koe3$1@dont-email.me> <874j4gwoy6.fsf@jemoni.to> <20241109200523.02f12286@ryz.dorfdsl.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:18:54 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="80b003e23e12bc133350d45674e15a01"; logging-data="4148270"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+F/wRquH3LC4/6ZWtsO6u8970qjFkhfjU=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:PdGJoSkGV0aALlEJzgWHZw3+9VQ= sha1:H26hmVuOYENr3B1KvLzHU8YAOtk= Bytes: 3823 Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes: > On 09.11.2024 um 09:50 Uhr Wolfgang Agnes wrote: > >> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes: >> >> > On 09.11.2024 um 09:13 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >> > >> >> "The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility >> >> and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and >> >> equitable technical future for us all. >> > >> > Maybe they should drop all the agile stuff. >> >> Lol---you are a non-believer! What's wrong with the agile stuff? > > It is mostly management BS and buzzwords, I haven't seen a real outcome > of such ideas yet. Same here. I view the situation as a major sign of failure. It seems the whole world is on the same boat, though. I don't know of any company that has not bought into all this nonsense---they may exist (and I hope they do), but surely I don't know the routine of every company out there. ``Software engineering'' in the universities are also going in the same direction. In fact, one thing I observe in the universities is that the academics in ``software engineering'' are actually the manager-types who are not (at the same time) programmers, which is a terrible sign. I hope I'm not offending anyone, but it's really how I think. If something is very difficult and people find it hard to accept that it is difficult, then they make these programs of management and education thinking that they can make progress little by little. It's a certain Religion of Progress or something like that. But not everything can be made right---little by little---simply because one wants it. To advance things, sometimes you really need to have the right insight. There are hard things to do in this life. We also live a certain overconfidence in science. There are very few scientists doing relevant work, but there's a widespread belief that science (and technology) will always solve everything---it's always just a matter of time; someone will figure it out. Ask people and you will see---almost nobody understands anything about quantum computing or artificial intelligence, but nearly everyone thinks that it's a matter of a short time and all the quantum computing will be here for the next revolution. And I need say nothing about artificial intelligence because everyone is well-aware about the all the hype. On the other hand, though, I totally understand the fears: academics are fearful of not having anything to say and managers either invent something whatever or they have a nervous breakdown out of fear of losing their jobs. And some really do. They have a deep sense of incapacity: it seems they never find a way to put their lives to good use. It's a very sorry situation.