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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Emigration from Usenet [was: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ...] Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 22:40:04 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <871q2r7uh7.fsf@tudado.org> References: <uvej5e$34pfl$8@dont-email.me> <toolmakers-20240806145434@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v8ue8n$1uv83$1@dont-email.me> <wwvfrrgrci1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <66b38cf5$0$706$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 03:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0cf6c2d404dfac420ed8cc4c7596c2ce"; logging-data="168552"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/iRKlcoBkjz6KHm7sFGMxSrrKFnfO8l98=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:IXrXbnf2HGePkdZn7beCH8DdWmw= sha1:/8umxHN2wJlHQV47FaX2Tew3b/M= Bytes: 2672 arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) writes: > In article <wwvfrrgrci1.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>, > Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes: >>> On 8/6/24 6:55 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: >>>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote or quoted: >>>>>What happens when there are no more toolmakers? >>>> Well, if by "toolmakers" you mean those devs cranking out text >>>> editors, search engines, or AI chatbots: We're swimming in them these >>>> days, more than ever before in human history! So I'd say: I'll cross >>>> that bridge when I come to it, if we ever actually run low on those >>>> folks. (Sure, some tech fields are hurting for talent, but that's >>>> probably not because of the new AI chatbots hitting the scene.) >>> >>> I mean people who have serious work to do and know how to make a >>> computer do it for them. REAL experts. If there are only people who >>> know how to use the tools already provided for them, who will make NEW >>> tools? >> >>Obviously nobody. But it’s a hypothetical situation which isn’t about to >>happen. > > Don't be sure. A CS professor I know told me this last week: > > I'm one of the very few that teach Systems. It amazes me that > our PhD students almost all in AI have never heard of a program > counter. > > Scary times. I'm glad I retire from software development in a few years. Fear not: You can twist perception Reality won't budge. -- ``Show Don't Tell'', Neil Peart, 1989.