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From: Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de>
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Subject: Re: Chipsandcheese article on the CDC6600
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 13:46:20 +0200
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On Mo 22 Jul 2024 at 13:08, Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 10:43:44 +0300
> Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-07-22 3:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:21:41 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
>> >   
>> >> IBM CEO said something to the effect:: How can a team of 24 people,
>> >> including the janitor, beat IBM ??  
>> > 
>> >  From Watson’s memo:
>> > 
>> >      Last week Control Data had a press conference during which they
>> >      officially announced their 6600 system. I understand that in
>> > the laboratory developing this system there are only 34 people,
>> >      including the janitor. Of these, 14 are engineers and 4 are
>> >      programmers, and only one person has a Ph.D., a relatively
>> > junior programmer. Contrasting this modest effort with our own vast
>> >      development activities, I fail to understand why we have lost
>> > our industry leadership position by letting someone else offer the
>> >      world’s most powerful computer.  
>> 
>> 
>> Per Wikipedia, Cray's reply was sardonic: "It seems like Mr. Watson
>> has answered his own question."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
> At the end, the influence of 6600 on computers we use today is close to
> zero. On the other hand, influence of S/360 Model 85 is massive and
> influence of S/360 Model 91 is significant, although far less than the
> credit it is often given in popular articles.
> Back at their time 6600 was huge success and both Model 85 and Model 91
> were probably considered failures.

And what does that tell us about computer architecture? Not much. But it
says sonething market dominance and power.

'Andreas

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