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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of Democracy Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 14:19:30 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 49 Message-ID: <8734kqz4rx.fsf@localhost> References: <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <20241014080601.00007478@gmail.com> <ln5gklF755tU4@mid.individual.net> <38fb5a91-5d00-be42-4bfe-2a05232a82c1@example.net> <ln7tooFijhpU2@mid.individual.net> <vemfq7$1qobu$5@dont-email.me> <venqec$24hhj$2@dont-email.me> <sFRPO.380393$FzW1.50024@fx14.iad> <mm96uk-us2.ln1@anthive.com> <82bcedf2-be4a-a2da-3f77-fbbed147ef30@example.net> <689497968.750888255.940557.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <ves1jl$2tsr0$3@dont-email.me> <I6gQO.411017$WOde.326819@fx09.iad> <KehQO.486096$_o_3.59515@fx17.iad> <ves7lr$2uo13$6@dont-email.me> <lndqbtFfcr3U4@mid.individual.net> <vesken$34igq$4@dont-email.me> <lne7t8Fh72qU2@mid.individual.net> <874j59nvy8.fsf@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 02:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b4fad0e8e85a5c7a757e1e81da71d15"; logging-data="673598"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190ksPP3+YuGCmkIO9S6SqZoTjz45VcJjE=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Mff/Ntkv5/E0AEMvnPOW2auG41k= sha1:QwBDDPzLkckUyNaFsn+bZH9wGh8= Bytes: 4339 Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > Later somewhat replay of the 1940 celebration, there was conference of > 5000 industrialists and corporations from across the US at the > Waldorf-Astoria, and in part because they had gotten such a bad > reputation for the depression and supporting Nazis, as part of > attempting to refurbish their horribly corrupt and venal image, they > approved a major propaganda campaign to equate Capitalism with > Christianity. > "https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-God-Corporate-ebook/dp/B00PWX7R56/ ... then "Was Harvard responsible for the rise of Putin" ... after the fall of the Soviet Union, those sent over to teach capitalism were more intent on looting the country (and the Russians needed a Russian to oppose US looting). John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html If you are unfamiliar with this fiasco, which was also the true proximate cause of Larry Summers' ouster from Harvard, you must read an extraordinary expose, How Harvard Lost Russia, from Institutional Investor. I am told copies of this article were stuffed in every Harvard faculty member's inbox the day Summers got a vote of no confidence and resigned shortly thereafter. .... snip ... How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to scandal and disgrace (gone 404, but lives on at wayback machine) https://web.archive.org/web/20130211131020/http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html Mostly, they hurt Russia and its hopes of establishing a lasting framework for a stable Western-style capitalism, as Summers himself acknowledged when he testified under oath in the U.S. lawsuit in Cambridge in 2002. "The project was of enormous value," said Summers, who by then had been installed as the president of Harvard. "Its cessation was damaging to Russian economic reform and to the U.S.-Russian relationship." .... snip ... There was proposal to establish 5000 local bank operations around Russia (as part of promoting capitalism), running approx @$1m, needed sequence of financial dealings starting with $5B of Russian natural resources .... until financing was available for the bank institutions. All the efforts collapsed with the US-style kleptocracy capitalism (which has a long history predating the banana republics). -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970