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From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

>> idea.  We can start with offlining the USENET.  If there's little work
>> to do, increase the uniform distribution of times you connect to
>> exchange articles.  If there's more work, decrease it.
>
> True. My usenet/mailinglist debt is starting to grow. I have become
> involved in way too detailed and deep interesting conversations, and
> they are starting to take their toll. =(

I think I saw some of your chats on rec.food.cooking.  You gotta get
outta there.  That group is crazy and the volume, insane.

>>> Interesting, I have never seen this burger in europe! How does it
>>> differ from regular cheese burgers?
>>
>> I think a regular cheese burger would not be a Cheddar cheese burger.
>> But I agree any Cheddar is a cheese burger.  Over here now they have two
>> options: you get the traditional Cheddar McMelt or you can order the
>> double one.  The double one comes with three burgers, IIRC.  Besides the
>> melted Cheddar, it also comes with chopped onions mixed in the Cheddar.
>> I think that's it.  And a cheese burger is a burger with some slices of
>> cheese.  I'm not the right person to ask about such things because I go
>> there once in a few years, always planning never to come back. :)
>
> This is making me hungry! =D

Lol.

>>>> Yeah---the experts always include nutrition in their hypotheses.
>>>
>>> The question is... how can we, you and me, change the trend? ;)
>>
>> I don't think we can.  That would mean that a point can change the
>> uniform average.  We could do something if we go from a uniform average
>> to a weighted one and we somehow acquire the huge weight.  Nah.  I don't
>> think there's true change that way.  I don't think we can change the
>> world.  I don't think we should change the world.  Let nature follow its
>> own course.
>
> What if it is in my nature to change the world? Then that would be nature
> following its own course. ;)
>
> The biggest change can start with the smallest idea!

Today I watched the documentary series called 

  The Century of the Self

It's a good illustration of people mean by ``change'' in the world. :)

>> Should a 4-leaf clover try to make every other a 4-leaf one?
>
> Yes!

Lol.  Speechless. :)

>> Hey, there are 7 helicopters going round and round around a certain
>> region where my house is.  They're all gray in color.  One follows the
>> other.  They're really going around a circumference.  Any idea what this
>> is?  I'd guess it's military exercise.  They're boringly going round.
>> Not in high speeds.  They're not high in the sky; probably between
>> 100--200 meters from the ground.  Probably 50 meters from the top of a
>> hill around which they seem to flying.
>
> Sounds scary! Be safe! =( In stockholm, due to the excessive
> uncontrolled crime recently, police drones and helicopters are
> becoming more and more common. I hate the surveillance society that
> sweden has been turned into and do not want to live in it.

I should have recorded it, uploaded with the comment---AI piloted. :)

> As we discussed above, I think a house in the country side, deep
> inside the forest would be the ideal place for me!

Sounds very interesting.

>>>> I had never heard of practical philosophy.
>>>
>>> It is a fairly new branch of philosophy, about 100 years old or so,
>>> depending on
>>> how you define it.
>>
>> Kinda funny to me.  Philosophy is totally practical.  The impractical
>> philosophy is that which is nonsense---you can't make sense of.
>
> Ah, you mean modern analytical philosophy? ;) Pick up a book on
> metaphysics and marvel at the nonsense! ;)

Specially if it's contemporary writing.

>>>> No.  Certainly not.  I have nothing to do with consensus.  Truth should
>>>> have nothing to do with consensus.  We can easily imagine an outrageous
>>>> group denying obvious facts.
>>>
>>> There are facts, and then there are "facts". Is it true that blue is
>>> the best color? Good luck answering that objectively. ;)
>>
>> There are meaningless sentences and questions.  Chomsky constructs the
>> famous one---colorless green ideas sleep furiously.  Good luck trying to
>> picture that in any way.  Truth (and philosophy) is not about nonsense.
>> It's about honestly making sense of things.
>
> Sometimes I think that is lost in a lot of modern philosophy.

By ``modern'' do you mean contemporary philosophy?  ``Modern''
philosophy is that of Descartes, for example.

>> Sometimes people take language to great abstractions, which should come
>> with lots of examples and simplicity.  If people fail do that, it is not
>> a bad idea to ignore it.  For instance, Kant is recognized for having
>> made the distinction between synthetic truths and analytic ones.  Have
>> you ever understood?  I don't think it too unwise to ignore all that.
>> But I don't mean it's bad work.
>
> Well, for me, Kants biggest insight, is that we can never get to the
> metaphysical through the physical. But then he adds a lot of stuff
> onto that, and I don't quite agree with where he goes.

I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about here.  I'm not a Kant
reader.  Are you talking about the Critique of Pure Reason?  I did read 

  Prolegomena do Any Methaphysics
  (that will be able to come forward as a science)

and that's a pretty understandable book.  This book is a good
introduction to the Critique of Pure Reason, but I think I don't really
recommend you get into any of this stuff.  There's a lot more
interesting things in life.

>>> Is it true that there is a coffee mug on my right on a table, yes! And
>>> if you were here with me, I am 100% certain that we would agree.
>>
>> Of course.  There's no point in even questioning that for too long.  We
>> have so many other important questions to work on.  For instance, is
>> there anything bothering any bit of your days?  How could we give you a
>> better life?
>
> Amen! A very important question that should be asked from time to
> time. I am tomorrow leaving for a 2 month vacation. First 1 month in
> spain, then a weekend in Lyon, and then a month in sweden. I am
> already looking forward to a lot of good food in spain and 20+ C
> weather!

Nice.  Enjoy!

> I am not looking forward to travel. Modern travel I find
> dehumanizing. It is all built around controlling the masses, and
> treating them as badly as possible, while still taking their money.

Oh, that's quite right.  I see the same.  The best way to travel in the
end is by your own means such as by car, but then there's how good the
roads are, how far you go...  Staying in hotels used to be a great
experience, but it's not quite anymore.  We have a complete
deterioration of everything.

> If I had infinite amounts of money, I would travel by private jet. If
> I had an infinitely compassionate wife I would not travel at all. I
> would be perfectly content to spend the rest of my life in my house,
> deep in the forest, fishing.

Yeah---gotta question a bit the need for traveling and tourism.  What's
that all about?  I like to travel to see people, not places.  I honestly
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