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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of octal Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 09:16:49 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <875xonp30u.fsf@comcast.net.invalid> References: <vgns2aqlhq@dont-email.me> <20241111090306.0000385d@gmail.com> <vgtr5s5ph3@dont-email.me> <70ac3933f2b6e0f3539c739acc5a792d@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> <UKScnT53YMTJYqv6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lppi68FktfdU1@mid.individual.net> <vr6dnZKd0f-CvaX6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <lpqol2Fqcu8U1@mid.individual.net> <kqadnRoGHfV6yKX6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:16:49 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="89a3ecb2142c0f3d9ae72a25c67edaf9"; logging-data="100805"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/hRtSQP8RIE+a+qbQmiF+mJaKlROzQQMs=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8oJob9Zr5w6096tudFRWKMXImSA= sha1:izOT1CCSoVqgeYWbcha2u2LgNZA= Bytes: 2571 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> writes: > On 11/16/24 12:24 AM, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:31:26 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote: >> >>> Again, not entirely sure where the end of octal was. Many of the PDPs >>> used octal, and I *think* a few PIC chips. 8/16/32 kinda took over >>> kinda early on however. >> chmod 4755 >> I don't know if I'd call it octal but if you were writing an >> assembler for >> quite a few microcontrollers the opcodes would have a pattern where source >> ans destination registers were 0 - 7, > > > Octal does persist, sometimes in obscure ways and places. > It WAS kinda big for awhile - a "big step" better than > 8-bit. > > Alas don't think anymore 12 or 24 bit CPUs are > gonna be made. Might still have a place for some > higher-end microcontrollers - hell, I think Epson > still makes FOUR-bit microcontrollers (looked at > the sheet for one once, insanely capable). > > Hmmm ... 256 of those 4-bitters running > parallel - that'd be a fun project :-) > GE's "GECOS" and later Honeywell's "GCOS" mainframe machines were all 36-bit words, so octal was a natural for them: 6 6-bit BCD characters or 4 9-bit bytes per 36 bit word. -- -Don_from_AZ-