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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:18:41 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 56 Message-ID: <875xr31fn2.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <vab101$3er$1@reader1.panix.com> <vbcs65$eabn$1@dont-email.me> <vbekut$1kd24$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vbepcb$q6p2$1@dont-email.me> <vbgb5q$1ruv8$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vbhbbb$1blt4$1@dont-email.me> <vbipp5$24kl5$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vbk0d9$1tajm$1@dont-email.me> <vbkpfc$27l2o$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vbl3am$228vv$1@dont-email.me> <vblfgb$2dkij$1@paganini.bofh.team> <878qw13a40.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vbll6l$2dpn7$2@paganini.bofh.team> <874j6p34df.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vbn79l$2g9i6$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vbn9e1$2fqep$1@dont-email.me> <vbnboc$2g0vc$2@dont-email.me> <20240909114553.226@kylheku.com> <vbngrb$2gvrs$1@dont-email.me> <87v7z41t1m.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vboruc$2qqt1$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 21:18:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="29df7bbfeaa4d6ddeb7fdca1349b4e93"; logging-data="3288061"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18kZ+rDnrCIVLZM7Zw2mA5B" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fevDixbZ6ZvOnars6QlMdu/Zu5w= sha1:uX6FAepfRbM+lyJ8w+LE0dmV9ok= Bytes: 4031 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: > On 09/09/2024 22:16, Keith Thompson wrote: [...] > I felt free to use C23 because we were already talking about the > support, or lack thereof, of 128-bit integers in C23, and also > _BitInt. And on a platform that supported 128-bit integer types, > "auto" would pick a 128-bit type here, while other platforms would > pick a 64-bit type. That last assumption turns out not to be correct. >> If an implementation doesn't have an integer type wider than 64 bits, >> then the constant 0x1'0000'0000'0000'0000 has no type, which violates >> a constraint. > > Indeed. Conforming implementations need to give an error or warning > here. But some will also then map it to a 64-bit value (I'd usually > expect 0, but 0xffff'ffff or 0x7fff'ffff might also be used) and > continue compilation. That gives a program with the desired > behaviour. (For my own uses, I would pick flags that gave an error on > such code.) gcc 14.2.0 gives it type int and value 0. I think what's happening is that the value wraps around, and then the compiler determines its type based on that. It also issues a warning. Since the code violates a constraint, you can't rely on its behavior. clang 18.1.0 rejects it. >> If an implementation does have a integer types wider than 64 bits, >> there's no guarantee that it uses the name "__int128". A future gcc >> might have a 128-bit (extended) integer type and still have __int128 >> with its current semantics. > > If an implementation had a standard integer type of 128 bits, then I > expect "long long int" would be the name (unless it also had even > bigger types!), but for extended integer types it could be many > different things. It is very likely, however, that it would also be > in <stdint.h> as int128_t. I would probably expect most compilers to keep long long at 64 bits, to cater to existing code that makes that assumption. That's what gcc did when it added __int128 (which is *almost* an extended integer type, but they don't call it one). > Do you know of any implementations that do have 128-bit integer types? > In particular, any that have a compiler on godbolt.org? None that I know of. [...] -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */