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From: Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
>>And, in fact, C actually does one specific bit of automatic memory
>>management itself - the stack, which may or may not even *be* a true
>>hardware stack (depending on the architecture,) and which is handled in
>>an entirely transparent fashion* by compiler-generated entry/exit code
>>generated by the compiler for each function.
>
>   This stack "management" is "limited" in C:
>
> |Unfortunately, the notion of stack overflow is not mentioned
> |by the standard or the standard’s rationale at all. This is
> |very troublesome, as for most actual implementations stack
> |overflow is a real problem.
> ...
> |in a real C implementation, a call like f(10000000) will not
> |return 10000000, but instead will crash with a message like
> |"segmentation fault". Furthermore, stack overflow does not
> |necessarily have to result in a crash with a nice error
> |message, but might also overwrite non-stack parts of the
> |memory (possibly putting the address of virus code there).
> |Stack overflow even can occur without function calls. For
> |example, the program int main(void) { int a[10000000]; }
> ...
> "Subtleties of the ANSI/ISO C standard" (2012); Robbert
> Krebbers, Freek Wiedijk; Radboud University Nijmegen.

Available online at :

https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1637.pdf

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
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