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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Refutation of =?utf-8?Q?Strachey=E2=80=99s?= 1965 Proof Based on Self-Referential Conflation as a Category (Type) Error Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 03:23:31 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 26 Message-ID: <878qnsze8s.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <3%oNP.2703666$nb1.805417@fx01.ams4> <130c384bc4881eb654343d0ccf3ced6905a90fbb@i2pn2.org> <3QpNP.1081604$B61.671277@fx02.ams4> <vu7kke$7o3q$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 12:23:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e72db596057d83171632e4a496618536"; logging-data="391305"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19F2uXuM1TaRF08UuU4aso0" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ly7hHFX83VgzFNLbdljLNXInHJQ= sha1:DShsZA7bOKiFcCpYc/l4R66T1sY= Bytes: 2157 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> writes: > On 2025-04-21 11:18:23 +0000, Mr Flibble said: [...] >> A circular dependency is like a circular argument or circular >> reasoning: >> not logically sound. > > A circular argument is not like a circular argument. Are you sure about that? 8-)} I think you meant to write that a circular *dependency* is not like a circular argument. > A circular argument > means either that there is an unjustified assumption and thus the argument > is fallacious or that the proof is redundant and therefore not needed. > > Dependency is not a logical concept. Statements of dependency always involve > an extra-logical knowledge or assumption. Whether such statements are are > true or false must be determined from such extra-logical knowledge or > assumptions with valid use of logic. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */