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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: more on broken schools Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:31:44 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <878qp7u1in.fsf@example.com> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87tt8odsb7.fsf@example.com> <1b411147-a833-8c73-2d85-e5c749fc23b9@example.net> <87ikp03y4r.fsf@example.com> <vplm9g$bh8$1@panix2.panix.com> <87ldtsjk7l.fsf_-_@example.com> <7e8c77e6-4d20-b1af-4698-c25f892330d9@example.net> <87ikokifl1.fsf@example.com> <61986dab-6a03-b266-0cd4-da95bcce70bd@example.net> <878qpf9h59.fsf@example.com> <c4dc80b0-2c3e-f25c-4035-fd7e4c876be9@example.net> <874j015stb.fsf@example.com> <a8333697-2704-2cd0-27f3-5915a9f44bd9@example.net> <87y0xd2jn4.fsf@example.com> <7ea9afe3-da06-ed4a-4160-399d2888cc15@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:31:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e27d3930ac1ea8ac8b29e9183fdd47e4"; logging-data="1543582"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Ynyq/dPl+kgzjYw+wk5M71nQht7Histw=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:rMFd03cBHBTKX1kfm6d+xixtQ8U= sha1:qc7FsqZUq9BQx8pXVgSTI/UiWz4= Bytes: 3450 D <nospam@example.net> writes: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote: >>> The challenge is inertia and trust. There are a lot of schools who run >>> azure, are unhappy, and refuse to change because the alterantive is >>> not azure. So they end up paying 10x or more, because they do not >>> trust small business. It is very sad. =( >> >> That made me think your service is just a cloud-like service---storage, >> office-like web applications, mail, calendar, video conference et >> cetera. Are there teachers involved? > > No, just virtual machines. Too much trouble and too little profit in delivering > office 365 equivalents, calendar and email. We could if we wanted to, but that > would probably require an entire school shifting from Microsoft to us, and I > doubt it will happen. It also probably would mean that we would need to hire > another person to spread the admin and support load, and that would probably not > make it worth it. I'm not ruling it out, but I'm not actively selling it either. [...] >> That's interesting. But tell me about the teachers because I didn't get >> the whole thing yet. I would think a service like that would require a >> 24-7 support as the most challenging part. > > No, the lab environment has no SLA:s, since it is just a lab environment, so if > it goes down for 15 minutes the students just shrug their shoulders and try > again later. But, to be honest, there is very little downtime, and we also have > 3 regions/servers. So in case of downtime, first fix is to shift a > student to another > region/server. That usually solves the problem 9 out of 10 times. If that > doesn't work, reboot the 3 servers and wait for 5-10 minutes. If that doesn't > work, reinstall the enviroment which might take 20-40 minutes. Oh, I see; now I got a better view of the business. Congrats---I think that's a pretty nice job. I would like to have a job like that.