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From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Grease and waxes
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 13:28:57 -0400
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Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> On 7/2/2024 5:24 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Mon Jul 1 21:57:40 2024 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>> On 7/1/2024 1:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> As usual the obvious candidates without a shred of knowledge of
>>>> chemistry told you all that I didn't know what I was talking about
>>>> when I said that Silca was making a block that looked like
>>>> Chocolate that converted grease to wax.
>>>>
>>>> I have continued to be curious why people that know nothing would
>>>> say things about which they know nothing. Grease and wax asr ONE
>>>> chemical chain from being the same thing. Where the hell do you
>>>> get Candle Wax from - TALLOW - which is animal fat. The
>>>> lubricating grease on a new chain (SRAM no longer put this grease
>>>> on a chain) is petroleum based but the chemistry is the same.
>>>>
>>>> And what would bring the usual noisome candidates to call Silca
>>>> liars because I reported their product?
>>>
>>> It's difficult to tell who or what you're talking about, given your
>>> usual total lack of citations, quotations, etc. I suspect it's more of
>>> your fantasies or hallucinations.
>>>
>>> But to discuss a matter of fact: "Where the hell do you get Candle Wax
>>> from - TALLOW - which is animal fat" has been wrong for normal
>>> commercial candles for well over 100 years. See
>>> https://www.gregorylefever.com/pdfs/candle.pdf
>>> or https://candles.org
>>>
>>> Some people still make or value tallow candles. Those are mostly the
>>> sorts of people who weave their own wool to make their own clothes,
>>> raise their own chickens, and tell time using only sundials. Heck, they
>>> probably use downtube friction shifters!
>>>
>>> -- - Frank Krygowski
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I should not be surprised that because I pointed one of Silca's
>> products is a chemical means of conterting the grease on a new chain
>> into wax, Liebermann and Krygowski call them liars and thieves.
>> Now Frank used ALL of his knowledge gained as a Plant Engineer to
>> cite an article filled with wishes and dreams of early settlers for
>> gaining the gift of light at times other than daylight. Of course
>> people of the 17th century didn't understand very little about
>> chemistry but to someone as slow as Krygowski, his useless citation
>> provided him ALL of rhe knowledge necessary to deny chemistry
>> advances of Silca.
>
> I said nothing about Silca. I merely pointed out that you were wrong
> in your claim that candle wax comes from tallow. As I said, these days
> it doesn't, except in very weird instances.

"Weird" is a very judgemental sort of word, isn't it?  Tallow candles
are still available for sale:

https://thefiltery.com/non-toxic-tallow-candles/

There is plainly still a market for non-edible animal fat, otherwise all
those little dumpsters behind fryolator sites wouldn't have padlocks on
them.


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