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From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 18:41:35 -0300
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

[...]

>>> I use the same technique with email. I have a spam-email that
>>> currently has around 20k spam messages in it, and this is the one most
>>> companies get.
>>
>> It's also nice to host your own mail.  It's not as difficult as people
>> have been saying lately.  A few weeks of reading (YMMV) can take you
>> from zero to up and running.
>
> I buy this from a local european cloud provider. I am very happy with
> their service. I have thought about hosting myself, but I cannot
> justify the time.
>
> I do self-host my web site, and 2 SaaS products though on rented
> servers. =)

You're good.  

I decided to host my everything.  I'm running notqmail with some patches
on top.  My phone e-mail checker is K9, which I believe is actually
Thunderbird.  But it turns out that now there's the Thunderbird for
Android, too.  It looks the same as K9, except that it's blue instead of
red.  On the desktop, I run Gnus with an IMAP4 server local.  And it's
not over---I also run fdm to fetch my mail from my own server to me
locally.  So, yes, it's very complicated.  And I'm not even close to
finish because I didn't talk about public-inbox and mailing lists, which
is involved with Gnus because it's where I read and write mail.  It's
almost a life project.

But it's fun to do these things *if* you have the free time.