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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Firewalls: Rant Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 20:39:40 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <87bjxhpz5v.fsf@example.com> References: <lrigkhFkmi4U1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 00:39:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e88128b70b601236abbe8acbed1b8eee"; logging-data="1870736"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/5zVbYrBAp5odtMkuLEhJZdWxNDhM47+I=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:rhZLMcya7A/2L59Svc5JYwVvPyA= sha1:hus7RMxkHpseA9jO7ktAdmHNCSQ= Bytes: 2121 Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> writes: > Really? > > I have to learn a THIRD way of doing firewalling? > > First it was ipchains. > > Then it was iptables. > > Now apparently, that's not good enough, so I have to get my head > around nftables. That's wild. I remember telling myself---gotta study ipchains. But then iptables appeared and I was like---hm, interesting! Maybe my life will be easier now. Lol. Perhaps I can be glad I never got around to study any of them? The nftables websites says it's a successor to iptables. I think that's not the way to do things. We should not blindly follow along software development. Remember---many of these things will fall. Programming languages for instance. If you're still writing Perl or Lisp, say, you're doing just fine. In fact, you are much more productive if you just keep using your good tools and let the world move on. Of course, perhaps you work in a market that is always high on the new kid on the block, but then perhaps the best thing is to get out of that market. I interviewed with a company in Paris once. They didn't hire me and called me old school due to C and Lisp. I was a little hurt. I was their age, but I think they don't care about my teachers' lessons.