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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:54:34 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <87cyf5q2hh.fsf@example.com> References: <vpgghn$o45q$1@dont-email.me> <20250224075243.abbf3892667a0cf1313d1441@127.0.0.1> <vpih89$1d236$2@dont-email.me> <8734g2voya.fsf@example.com> <vpkscf$22iuo$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:54:35 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e2e704bf0a44b4e6b345114f55d5d4df"; logging-data="2245505"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+5jyeGuaQSPTuRaUvNDIzHcZFEipHrZ7w=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:n3fxyYVAaY0GzHRN1qxrDxlJgFQ= sha1:L8aKeDJE2xJqg3Q+jqJ3AKC4hHY= Bytes: 2563 Ben Collver <bencollver@tilde.pink> writes: > On 2025-02-25, Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote: >> I never used DOS as a programmer, so it wasn't nostalgic to me, but I >> enjoyed seeing how simpler things were back then and how programs like >> debug could help you to see what was going on. I was reading about 6502 >> assembly recently and I became very interested in getting closer to that >> simplicity. The booklet author remarked that modern x86 assembly isn't >> really meant for programmers, but compilers. I had never really thought >> of that, but it made a lot of sense to me. So maybe I should indeed >> look into an older, simpler machine to enjoy the low level of things. > > To validate your post: I think some C=64 retro-enthusiasts who have > never touched a real C=64, and the same can be said of other 8-bit > platforms. Once for fun i wrote a program for the ZX Spectrum, and i > did not have access to the real hardware. Though i can remember > tinkering with a Timex Sinclair 1000. > > For that matter, 8bitworkshop supports both C=64 and ZX Spectrum > development in corporate web browsers. > > http://8bitworkshop.com/ > > See also: > > https://x64.halb.it/ Very cool stuff! But I'd believe I have a certain bug to expose relative to 8bitworkshop.com. The machine screen first appears with a beautiful logo and then eventually it looks like an old buggy TV with red lanes going up the screen: https://0x0.st/8AwL.png This is Firefox 133.0.3 (amd64) on OpenBSD 7.6.