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From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
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Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:45:29 -0300
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

[...]

>> Quite mysteriously, all sorts of otherwise respectable open-source
>> software developers are happy to use GitHub even though it's owned
>> by M$. So even having ditched their software long ago, M$ are now
>> very hard to avoid online if, ironically, you want to use, and
>> especially work on, open-source software. I find that truely
>> unfathomable, but others barely seem to see my problem with it.
>
> This is a great mystery to me! I have no clue how so many open source
> users can be so clueless! =( They also loooooove slck and
> discord. That's revolting! IRC works percectly fine, and if you need
> blinken lights, you can just add some of the numerous web IRC programs
> out there, or at least use matrix or xmpp.

Lol---well said.  (I call Discord a Christmas Tree.  And Slack is no
different.)  Quite right.  And USENET, which is way more appropriate for
technical discussion than IRC.

> I think the reason must be that many open source users are young and
> naive and do not remembre how M$ tried to close down linux decades
> ago.

That's very likely part of the reason.

> When I teach, I make it a point to bring up these things. Sadly the
> students then go on to work, and get stuck in github and various
> proprietary tools. But such is life! We must continue to fight the
> good fight. =)

Teaching can only go so far.