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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Another proof: The Halting Problem Is Undecidable. Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:41:04 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <87froydfhb.fsf@bsb.me.uk> References: <789da1c7da825d24f5298891efae209a44535ca5.camel@gmail.com> <0cf5c2dd4c7f1042c1d52ea45a30847ea4bc3e38.camel@gmail.com> <veaved$3jher$1@dont-email.me> <bd415cc46f2a87bb642028be2e99b999e8c7c6fd.camel@gmail.com> <vec20n$3jher$3@dont-email.me> <9810f381018797df92f66066e96a63386071658b.camel@gmail.com> <vee7dm$3ja6$1@dont-email.me> <e7405711e263b0be322ff79f1b58865b7c0c72b0.camel@gmail.com> <87v7xvd8fl.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <8bc20d66c9629cef21f75ad3be0a2b583c1c55f5.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fcc37f642faab198c14b0e455baaac50"; logging-data="1250777"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+DXyk/B3LTW4Lk+sRhtGSvJJIFsFJXoQA=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BW5jXL7ZB0Ga2g8M7FfvdORor74= sha1:mXGSFeiswy9nlKGnDeK6sdKLl2c= X-BSB-Auth: 1.899435b77844576e1b2f.20241014134104BST.87froydfhb.fsf@bsb.me.uk Bytes: 2529 wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes: > On Sun, 2024-10-13 at 22:01 +0100, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> writes: >> >> > If 0.999..=1, you have to explain your arithmetic system. >> >> Almost. First you have to explain the notation. That's easy (but >> relatively advanced) as 0.999... denotes the limit of a sequence of >> partial sums (sometimes called a series limit). The arithmetic system >> (the reals, where all such sums converge) comes after saying what the >> ... denotes. >> >> When *you* say that 0.999... =/= 1 you always avoid saying what the >> notation (specifically the ...) means in formal terms. > > What I would say now is probably not different from > https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download > > "..." conventionally means "so on,..,etc.", likely infinitely. I use > it like that. So it might even be finite and it has some element of likelihood about it? I'll stick with the actual conventional meaning, thanks. -- Ben.