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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: What is wrong with malloc? Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 14:12:43 -0800 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 29 Message-ID: <87h669q7j8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <vljvh3$27msl$1@dont-email.me> <vlle1n$2n1b0$1@dont-email.me> <vlm2tg$2dkpd$3@dont-email.me> <vlm8gd$2rfbl$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 23:12:44 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="78dde0aa8fcfd62296c6657e38e15b03"; logging-data="3132812"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19fY1Y1ZGS4fPPyAYTu9np6" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:przODY9tNALtCt7gJgnbdwnp7c8= sha1:MbGE5Fqgii8Ztjy+eVDDEa1IdL0= Bytes: 2466 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: [...] > There are basically two classes of small embedded devices - those that > are usually programmed with gcc (and sometimes clang, and occasionally > vastly expensive commercial tools), and those that are programmed > using non-standard, limited and often expensive sort-of-C compilers. > For people using gcc, clang, Green Hills, Code Warrior, or other > quality tools on a 16-bit or 32-bit microcontroller, C99 is not a > problem. C23 is not a problem for the most popular toolchain for the > most popular microcontroller core. [...] It's also worth mentioning that the standard specifies two kinds of implementations, "hosted" and "freestanding". A hosted implementation must provide the entire standard library (except for parts that are explicitly optional). The program entry point is "main". Larger embedded systems (for example, Linux-based systems) often have "hosted" implementations. In a freestanding implementation, most of the standard library need not be provided. Library facilities are implementation-defined, as is the program entry point. Freestanding implementations generally target systems with no operating system. There might not be a malloc() function. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */