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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Differentiable Forth Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:12:50 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <87h6cpgcct.fsf@nightsong.com> References: <e9689378e46f06961fe4fe43b47dfd3b@www.novabbs.com> <v766m4$3hipk$1@news.xmission.com> <f806c73034c83af94d0ce3d857075241@www.novabbs.com> <v76ris$3htrd$1@news.xmission.com> <b83ad41e25a48ccb727b94f427665073@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:12:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1ad292c86056a3c03a94a525affde3a8"; logging-data="1566286"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19q4fkgSF0Lt00mLiaGs8Zw" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:R4LkmVVA0XPuv/mAvxqfG/zYXSE= sha1:MY9zBYTCgeTIONDVcmCR/j4IYoM= Bytes: 1718 mhx@iae.nl (mhx) writes: > It's the wrong type of differentiation again. AI-people are > overloading our vocabulary, redefining our words, and overflowing our > stacks. The automatic differentiation there looks like what you were talking about, built into the language sort of like some languages have built in complex numbers. Here is a 2005 article about AD that you might like: http://blog.sigfpe.com/2005/07/automatic-differentiation.html It mentions at the end that you can approximate this method using complex numbers. Just pretend that the imaginary part is nilpotent, I guess.