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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Products made crappy for you Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 21:27:47 -0400 Organization: None of the above Lines: 33 Message-ID: <87h6ezx3sc.fsf@mothra.home> References: <RF50O.96359$Y79f.80394@fx16.iad> <_380O.223142$oNU.191033@fx15.ams4> <ed90O.14082$yT%1.4242@fx33.iad> <v1sq4c$3djon$1@dont-email.me> <_uw0O.53411$A1d8.8776@fx47.iad> <v1ufn7$3tjhr$2@dont-email.me> <v1vvhv$81kg$2@dont-email.me> <RGR0O.278671$oNU.96945@fx15.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 03:27:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ab49f357cc2621972c5286570a2e2570"; logging-data="531773"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18XE8v5fqk2cUuP25rEgf2O01xSVJqajMY=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:T3/Pkrq5j9lULe2uOepYBHaabwo= sha1:J5doLhw6t+Qs7cj5KPNXJztVBKI= Bytes: 2065 Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> writes: > Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> On 5/13/2024 9:45 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>> A friend has a new Mercedes. There's no dipstick and no place to add >>> oil. The electronics signal when to 'return to dealer for service'. >> >> Hmm. Sounds similar to STI and more "advanced" derailleur shifting systems. >> >> I prefer products I can visually diagnose, and disassemble if necessary. >> > Somewhat related is the Buffalo bikes. > > http://www.buffalobicycle.com Cottered cranks, are they stronger than Ashtabula? > > Which came up on one of my subscriptions. > > https://youtu.be/QV88C5ZK0x0?si=-I1qoo2HYC2WV1zy > > I believe they have been around a few decades now? But impressive low > technology as you were even so. > > And also related to carrying loads in another thread. > > Roger Merriman > > --