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From: Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
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Subject: Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)
Date: 28 Feb 2025 16:38:01 -0400
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:

> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote or quoted:
>
>> Soon thereafter, Apple was ballyhooing the Mac so I borrowed a Mac for
>> a week, then went into the Apple Store and had a look:
>> Me: So, how do you program it?
> 
>   IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:
> 
>   You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system
>   for the Mac.

Yeah.  Details have faded  from my recall after decades but....

Some time (months? years? I forget.) after I was stonewalled at the
(Bridgewater, NS) Apple store, I went into the new Apple store (in
Lunenburg, NS, possibly the same proprietors, possibly others) to see
what all the hype about the Lisa was.  Price was way more than basic
Mac, more than Intel/M$, not an inducement, especially so as an Apple
vendor had already alienated me.

As I've remarked before, in retrospect, really happy I settled for an
obsolete Osborne I and learned fundamenals rather than struggling with
Intel ideosyncrasies and obligatory GUI interface.

As an aside: I accumulated a flock of discarded Osbornes.  My wife
wrote her master's thesis on one of them and I supported one of her
uni friends  to whom I had given another.  The thesis was all-ASCII;
IIRC, we paid someone to format it in a then-modern word processor and
print copies for submission, binding etc.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada