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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: rec tech mower Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 20:34:52 -0400 Organization: None of the above Lines: 54 Message-ID: <87jz7ijoib.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <vtbuvt$2iia8$1@dont-email.me> <vtc70h$2qaqs$2@dont-email.me> <mqajvjhn7rg7rorr77pd4t79a6b5iio1dj@4ax.com> <vtcap4$2u9vc$1@dont-email.me> <6ubjvj9j6ipv60svn0sup8ks45ha9nluj1@4ax.com> <byaLP.2585362$TBhc.1497141@fx16.iad> <gjhqvjl1cjldhvvcub1nj4lq2f0t26jgkr@4ax.com> <vtkhes$2pmgv$1@dont-email.me> <vtlk1r$3naqm$1@dont-email.me> <vtm51c$607j$3@dont-email.me> <899tvjp9cgil7ktunsc076op06o10eboub@4ax.com> <vtmjsu$k49r$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 02:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="db45c25217494dc0c298548df7c2b7ea"; logging-data="1844663"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/B4prU/Y34Ogdjz9sj4gm+I+NNSUTwDmM=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:H6EWe1gheGpLIYFQjRPKCKBj+VY= sha1:7VUaqLr1sfnpeZ05Tf5u6znpsFE= Bytes: 4145 Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes: > On 4/15/2025 2:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 13:29:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski >> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 4/15/2025 8:39 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> On 4/14/2025 9:48 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> I'm not an expert but there were or are corded electrics as I knew >>>> someone who loved his. Assuming your house is roughly centered on the >>>> lot a 100ft cord would do. >>> >>> I know those exist, but there's no way it would work. I just counted, >>> and there are at least 13 "islands" of landscaping, large trees or other >>> obstacles I have to cut around. They'd require far too much >>> backtracking, etc. if I were dragging a cord. >> Perhaps a robot lawn mower that goes around the trees? >> <https://www.google.com/search?q=robotic%20lawn%20mower&udm=2> >> <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=robot%20lawn%20mower> > > I've been paying attention to the development of those for > years. There are now a couple models that don't require the buried > wire barrier systems (like Invisible Fences for dogs), but use some > local electronics that enhance GPS for precise location. Supposedly > one can manually steer the mower around the lot and "teach" it where > to mow and what to avoid. They're quite pricey, though! I've got about > 25,000 square feet to mow, and the Luba brand capable of that is about > $3000. That would get me a lot of teenager hours, if I can recruit a > new one. Also, its level of technology makes me worry about long term > reliability. > > I had a thought about a simpler alternative that would require far > less technology. I'm not a guy that wants beautiful lawn stripes, so I > usually mow by cutting the perimeter clockwise, then working my way > inward, always straddling the boundary between "that's cut" and > "that's not cut." Seems that a self propelled mower should be able to > do most of that on its own, if it could reliably tell the difference > between "cut" and "not yet cut." The "steering" logic seems pretty > simple, based on separate drives for the left wheel and right wheel > (or perhaps, left and right "tank tracks" to handle lawn lumps and > holes). > > But I haven't been able to dream up a sensor system, especially > because in dry times, there will be patches that are very non-uniform > height. (My lawn is a diverse ecosystem, the farthest thing from a > putting green.) Machine vision could probably do it, but that's very > complex. Get some sheep, for crying out loud. I understand it's sometimes possible to rent them, since you don't have the acreage to feed them full time, and there's nothing sadder than a single, solitary sheep. --