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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Dual-Chain drive train Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:00:55 -0500 Organization: None of the above Lines: 32 Message-ID: <87jzbhnm0o.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <vkmhgm$30kuq$14@dont-email.me> <vkrqf7$11o07$1@dont-email.me> <vku2m1$11nkk$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:00:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="77fb82e28a1bccad0491745404329c35"; logging-data="1811188"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+hotHPrePlC4QTdP8GDay9sj3sXqb/sk8=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HxceYEFobcBlmNqUYGjYPYpvYUA= sha1:QiMjn8j1XWyxrq2S1ZJvL3LKAa4= zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> writes: > On 12/29/2024 10:39 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> https://www.bikeradar.com/news/buffalo-utility-s2 >>> >>> Made for developing countries to allow for easier transportation on >>> cargo bikes, without the exposure and complexity of an external >>> derailleur or hand-operated shifting (for an internally geared hub). It >>> was developed and patented with the help of SRAM. >> Are derailleurs really that bad? A whole new bike for the sake of a >> granny >> gear seems slightly extreme. Internal pawls at small radius are going to >> be more stressed and harder to build than a rear sprocket of larger radius. >> I'll admit that the narrower flange of a multispeed rear hub impairs >> the >> lateral strength of the rear wheel, but a hub with flanges spaced to leave >> room for a two-cog stack would be vastly stronger. What is the "exposure" >> alluded to above? >> Thanks for reading, >> bob prohaska >> > Third-world use by people with little to no technical ability. Their > bikes are heavily misused and abused, and generally speaking the > riders/owners have very few resources that could be applied to fixing > something that failed.. An external gear-changing system doesn't last > long in those environments. Derailleur chains require frequent replacement due to wear. Expense and logistics would likely be a problem in the Buffalo application. Non-derailleur chains can wear in with the cog and sprocket and last for years without requiring replacement.