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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: what's a mainframe, was is Vax addressing sane today Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:54:45 -1000 Organization: Wheeler&Wheeler Lines: 33 Message-ID: <87ldzv9vne.fsf@localhost> References: <vbd6b9$g147$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep11.113204@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbsg1v$1lt4$1@gal.iecc.com> <vbtdia$3sl3q$1@dont-email.me> <vbti8q$r2u$1@gal.iecc.com> <vbtqu4$2sce$6@dont-email.me> <7WCEO.4677$2nv5.422@fx39.iad> <vc0or9$ogub$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 21:54:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="36df20fd6dc3f01fb509adda04146b61"; logging-data="1058058"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ltXzzXQlvx7lWtGRO8SLVJ1QWw8HF5MI=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/AORnQDf6cKTtBxeub/qTc6TZPE= sha1:hKnkN4Rt2/IPfPCuOILTMhaQyfY= Bytes: 2917 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> writes: > Novell's System Fault Tolerant NetWare 386 (around 1990) supported two > complete servers acting like one, so that any hardware component could > fail and the system would keep running, with nothing noticed by the > clients, even those that were in the middle of an update/write > request. late 80s, get HA/6000 project, originally for NYTimes to move their newspaper system (ATEX) off VAXCluster to RS/6000. I then rename it HA/CMP when I start doing technical/scientific scale-up with national labs and commercial scale-up with RDBMS vendors (Oracle, Sybase, Informix, Ingres) that had VAXCluster support in same source base with Unix (I do distributed lock manager that supported VAXCluster semantics to ease ports). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_High_Availability_Cluster_Multiprocessing IBM had been marketing S/88, rebranded fault tolerant. Then the S/88 product administer starts taking us around to their customers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratus_Technologies Also has me write a section for the corporate continuous availability strategy document ... however, it gets pulled when both Rochester (AS/400, I-systems) and POK (mainframe) complain that they couldn't meet the requirements. Early Jan92 in meeting with Oracle CEO, AWD/Hester tells Ellison that we would have 16processor clusters by mid92 and 128processor clusters by ye92. Within a couple weeks (end jan92), cluster scale-up is transferred for announce as IBM Supercomputer (scientific/technical *ONLY*) and we are told we can't work on anything with more than four processors (we leave IBM a few months later). -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970