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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 19:51:13 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 84 Message-ID: <87le0uy25a.fsf@comcast.net.invalid> References: <v903q8$35ehe$1@dont-email.me> <tov9bj99r02h5e0n9h4b1u1392uvjk2mlf@4ax.com> <fe8tO.291927$a6n5.15337@fx15.iad> <17fobjtemh0r464olg57kk4b5j8ol72v3u@4ax.com> <dtipbjtb6qehenc07d2025ks9od0798lfu@4ax.com> <TH4vO.27471$yI05.15120@fx38.iad> <v9imto$h57c$1@dont-email.me> <v9jko8$lr5i$2@dont-email.me> <5m8sbjpf1mod8753dq7d7gkmubq2sq3q55@4ax.com> <TWpvO.92233$1w_2.62901@fx48.iad> <cdtubjtcs12n9aee4rai084rsnehkk3eui@4ax.com> <9f9eb48d-d76e-b2ed-845a-5b598aa50de8@example.net> <5ph1cj1sauh4evopn05l8anapp8ckt7m40@4ax.com> <4edbf58d-3c18-ea54-9c49-ddca10514c46@example.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 04:51:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b43e1be273c0b11cb4b1249bd2cc83ff"; logging-data="2363065"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EUzr9UXNL+tIpVDknEEywTgbIovf3M7s=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q2fq3Vu9NNqZuomvAbBVn3ow2I4= sha1:R4vKH1MvdK2Gn0xHSEJxXCkWIs0= Bytes: 4768 D <nospam@example.net> writes: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2024, Paul S Person wrote: > >> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:21:27 +0200, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024, Paul S Person wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 16:22:11 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: >>>>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:13:46 -0700, Dimensional Traveler >>>>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> <snippo mucho, response is to plastic reusable shopping bags> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I use cloth bags.... >>>>> >>>>> I have a box with handles (e.g. a document storage box) that >>>>> I keep in the car. Tell the checker to leave everything in >>>>> the cart and transfer from cart to box at car. >>>>> >>>>> No bags necessary. >>>> >>>> I'm non-motorized, so I not only need bags (currently boxes, as noted >>>> elsewhere) but need exactly two of them (having exactly two arms to >>>> tote them with), which affects how much I can buy at one time. >>>> >>>> But walking to and (especially) from the store is great exercise! >>>> >>> >>> This is the truth! I try to make it a point to walk to the store and walk >>> back with the bags for the exercise aspect. >>> >>> I call it "micro-exercise" by which I mean all the small physical things >>> in life, that adds to our calory burn such as: >>> >>> 1. Walking to the store. >>> 2. Carrying groceries. >>> 3. Walking back. >>> 4. Taking the stairs. >>> 5. Walking to business meetings (if they are a maximum of 20-25 minutes >>> away). >>> >>> It is my firm belief that this has a positive effect on my health. It is >>> also my firm belief, that calling home food, using electric >>> bikes/scooters, taking the elevator, in the aggregate detracts from ones >>> health. >> >> News articles on exercise go in cycles (no pun intended). >> >> For a while, you /must/ have a special time (and special clothes) and >> spend at least X hours a week for it to count. >> >> Then, when it becomes apparent that that message merely discourages >> people, we get minimum daily step counts, with no special stuff >> needed. >> >> Finally, the number of steps required to count decreases and we reach >> the attitude we appear to share: everyday activity works. Or at least >> helps. >> >> Interestingly, I rarely see diet mentioned in those articles. Have the >> Gurus of Health given up on getting people to eat sensibly and so >> become fully focused on exercise? At least they tend to stress >> cardiovascular exercise rather than calisthenics. > > I have never followed any of this, and generally don't read health > articles. It seems to me, as you say, that one month X is bad for you, > and then a month later X is good for you, and then no one knows. > > So I'll just do what I enjoy and try to keep moderately active, and so > far, basing it on the comments of my doctor, it seems as if it is > working! ;) > > When I was younger I did train boxing, which is probably the single > best exercise I have ever encountered. And no, one does not have to > spar in boxing, and if one does, one can choose to do so softly or > without head shots. Was the train moving when you tried to box with it?