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From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Riding after heavy manual labor
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 15:43:23 -0400
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Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> writes:

> On 5/28/2024 4:36 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/28/2024 3:25 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 May 2024 16:01:30 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/28/2024 12:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>>> 3.63 lbs of static thrust will lift 3.63 lbs off the ground.  That's
>>>>> adequate for lifting a small amount of wet grass, but hardly enough to
>>>>> lift a grass bag and "suck" it into the blades.
>>>>
>>>> But that's missing the most salient point: Lawnmowers are designed such
>>>> that the bag is unaffected by any suction created under the mower.
>>>
>>> Umm... that's what I wrote.  The static thrust produced by the mower
>>> blades acting like a fan isn't going to lift the bag much less suck it
>>> into the blades.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if unaffected is a suitable description.  There is a
>>> little suction and therefore there will be some effect.  However, for
>>> moving the grass clipping into the bag, it's done mostly by
>>> centrifugal force.
>>>
>>>> The only way the bag could get suck into the blades is
>>>> if the bag came off the mounts and tommy ran over it.
>>>
>>> That assumes that Tom owns a lawn mower.
>>> I still don't believe that Tom owns a lawn mower for his small lawn.
>>>
>>>> IOW - tommy was doing it wrong....again. I still suggest MWI.
>>>
>>> "Can You Get A DUI While Mowing Your Lawn?"
>>> <https://www.norcalcriminallaw.com/2018/07/22/dui-laws/>
>>> "It is unlawful for a person who is under the influence of an
>>> alcoholic beverage to drive a car, or truck, or motorcycle or even a
>>> lawn mower."
>>>
>>> But ossifer, it cuts better with a little ethanol octane booster added
>>> to the gasoline.
>>>
>> I am not an attorney and certainly not licensed to the California
>> bar.
>> But my understanding is that 'impaired driving' statutes apply only
>> to the public way.
>> https://california.public.law/codes/ca_veh_code_section_23152
>> That is, drunken lawnmowing or felling trees with a chainsaw or
>> roofing on your own property is your own problem. And likely will be
>> a problem, just not a criminal violation under CA SS 23152.
>> And yes people are regularly cited for impaired driving of
>> everything from full size tractors and construction equipment to toy
>> cars, lawnmowers and golf carts on the public way.  Which is fine
>> with me BTW.
>
> There have been cases in Mass where people have been arrested for DUI
> in their own driveway. AFAIUI, the critical point is where the car
> keys were at the time - in the ignition shows intent. Not in the
> ignition, no intent. That was many years ago, things may have changed
> since then.

At least one thing has changed:  It seems to be impossible these days to
buy a new car that actually requires putting a physical key into a
physical slot.  Just having the key somewhere in the general vicinity of
the vehicle is enough to allow it to be driven.