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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 20:32:04 -0400 Organization: None of the above Lines: 31 Message-ID: <87mscil0xn.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <5rteuj1mr9a65enuv3jqj7sfmpgurreaqs@4ax.com> <vs92mm$1j1nq$2@dont-email.me> <m4qvduFb17oU1@mid.individual.net> <p83hujhub0kjjqbldnkenuod55mq8uu4nt@4ax.com> <vsa9hq$2ret2$1@dont-email.me> <ofihujd2o07rbh7crvbght0v8q35emp49b@4ax.com> <87iknpxigi.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vsel0o$p14u$4@dont-email.me> <87tt79kodg.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vsf5o5$1f45h$1@dont-email.me> <62cmuj1f1dvq0kig96gflu90uat89d6ssj@4ax.com> <vsfdh3$1mqm7$1@dont-email.me> <thfmujtcktddped8n3k91fo0b53tfei1re@4ax.com> <vsfjtj$1rdfv$2@dont-email.me> <87a58um184.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <m5f1c7FhdikU1@mid.individual.net> <87ecy43qdh.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vt0thv$3vi0o$9@dont-email.me> <87semjl99f.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vt3k5r$2jp43$7@dont-email.me> <vt3p50$2pcic$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 02:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="20ad1b4d3eb05db5109a018297b20add"; logging-data="2604543"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/sUzQLWDqMmTtlwRSwIVSNnmD3nJfi1JU=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:f2euV5hPRGh9KCasm/DcFmocyRg= sha1:QGAeYIs/OXTDliSEVL5jHlcdRVk= Bytes: 2834 AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> writes: > On 4/8/2025 11:51 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/7/2025 9:41 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: >>> >>> Physicians are supposed to treat in order to benefit the patient. >> Is that written and recognized somewhere, especially in a way that >> excludes benefiting others who may catch a disease from the patient? >> It would seem to forbid the ancient and very sound practice of >> quarantine. >> > > Historically, quarantine is civil procedure not medical assistance. > > Which is not to say anything for or against quarantine (worked for > Venice!) but rather which field* governs. > > I'm with Mr Shouman on this. That agrees with the old physicians' > code* before it was bowdlerized: > > https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0252 > > > * no one would ever say of government, 'first, do no harm'. Quite so. Years ago, when most of you geezers were no more than middle aged, physicians swore an oath to respect a fiduciary responsibility for their patients. Like attorneys, or financial advisors. Crazy, I know. --