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From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:08:05 -0300
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D <nospam@example.net> writes:

> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:
>
>> D <nospam@example.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Feb 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Now... do you seriously think anyone would ever be interested in that? ;)
>>>>
>>>> LOL!  It turns out I'm *highly* interested in your leafnode.  Please,
>>>> can you put a package somewhere and let me look at it, try it out et
>>>> cetera?  I've been thinking about doing something like that myself.  I
>>>> can probably just live with your changes.
>>>
>>> Of course!
>>>
>>> Please grab a copy here:
>>> https://send.vis.ee/download/749384a5de2f4f33/#6ZgrL_j_qwmhqBNuXenoJA
>>
>> Thanks!  Got the package and unpacked it fine.  By the way, fdm is
>> already pulling my mail and I know it's able to download NNTP articles
>> too, so chances are it can do what leafnode has been doing for you.
>> I'll keep you posted.  Thanks very much for providing the package.
>
> Really?? I had no idea! Maybe I can scrap my leafnode setup then and
> move to fdm? I think fdm (well I guess, I haven't actually checked)
> might be more minimal even than leafnode, so thank you for the
> pointer! I will definitely have to check out the fdm manual today! =)

Precisely---fdm is minimal.  The reason I am not yet setting it up for
news is because fdm all by itself is not enough.  You need to reply to
articles and fdm will not send articles out for you.  It will only
download'em, so you can read them.  (I assume this.  I haven't tried
it.)

So for fdm to work with Gnus, say, (which is what I use), Gnus will need
to somehow know to which NNTP server to post my follow-ups.  If I use
Gnus in its traditional sense, then this work is already done.  If I
change to fdm, Gnus will likely see all messages as mail.  So it's not a
complete solution.  It's a hacker thing.  It always takes various
modules and need to work together to work.  It's the price we pay.

>> And by now I am willing to write a new one from scratch, so I intend to
>> make leafnode obsolete as well.
>
> Best of luck! =) Sounds like a nice project!

It is. :) It's the most fun I've ever had with programming.  I think
Common Lisp is a big part of it.  I tried Racket before Common Lisp.
Common Lisp is so much my way than Racket is.