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From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
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Subject: Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 12:20:39 -0300
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:

> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 00:31 this Sunday (GMT):
>> Has anyone ever tried this?
>>
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>> It is a text-based application where the entire user interface is
>> represented by a mosaic of text cells forming a TUI matrix. The
>> resulting TUI matrix is ​​just rendered either into its own GUI window or
>> into a compatible text console.
>>
>> It can wrap any console application and be nested indefinitely, forming
>> a text-based desktop environment.
>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>
>> Sources:
>> https://github.com/directvt/vtm
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofkoxGjFWQ
>
>
> It's certainly a cool idea, but I don't see why you wouldn't just go
> full terminal (tmux) or full ui (another wm). Maybe this would be useful
> for SSH sessions, though?

That's close to what I thought.  I think we've reached a point where a
lot of good stuff is already done and we don't really need more, even
though people can do amazing stuff.

I'm currently reading an article whose title is ``[t]he computer built
to last 50 years'' by Ploum, dated 2021 February 4Th.  (I should post it
here.)  The article has this tone---we don't need to replace computers
all the time.  Most of that ``need'' is actually just distraction.

We suffer a lot from distraction.  If we remove all distraction, what
happens?  We get distracted with what we have left---which is probably a
pretty good deal. :)

Even most of our conversations here on USENET would be classified as
distraction.  But I don't think we should kill conversation because
thinking is important in work and I do think thinking is kind of a
collective thing.  

I've had thoughts of working a lot in offline mode.  I could get USENET
messages every Monday, say, and then spend the rest of the week in
USENET offline mode.  Just that move is already a time saver because
working in batch mode is /usually/ more efficient.