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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Re: sendmail AUTH Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 17:22:01 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: <87ses0rwd2.fsf@jemoni.to> References: <875xoy7jau.fsf@jemoni.to> <anfi+xghsks9vvf-ob85@wp.eu> <87ed3m575r.fsf@jemoni.to> <vglbcv$38n6p$2@dont-email.me> <87ttchzi0e.fsf@jemoni.to> <vglmd8$3ajid$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:22:01 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="80b003e23e12bc133350d45674e15a01"; logging-data="4148270"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19U7q+9P/mmyHMJLfMFkM2W0tnu2xnVKIg=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:5t2A9eRmajOwFtk2G92SAGbEHEU= sha1:l6u7m0rP/GTUkfMLcHrIXsE5RN4= Bytes: 2284 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) writes: > Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote: >> Thanks! I don't know how to investigate it further after I type >> STARTTLS. I believe that after I issue STARTTLS, I'd have to speak the >> TLS protocol, which I don't know how. > > Please install a perl-based tool called "swaks". From the manual page: > > Swaks - Swiss Army Knife SMTP, the all-purpose SMTP transaction tester > > and then use its "-tls" option. > > With swaks, all SMTP testing becomes very easy indeed. Pretty useful. Thanks! >> By the way, I think you're thinking is good---you might be thinking that >> sendmail wouldn't want credentials traveling in the clear, but I believe >> it does accept that if we compile it with AUTH PLAIN, say. I think >> saying STARTTLS before will not be required. > > You never *compile* Sendmail with "AUTH PLAIN", those are m4 configuration > file options. Point taken. On the other hand, we could perhaps call the process of writing the sendmail.cf file as a certain compilation? Because we read a file that seems to be written in a certain domain-specific language and then a program writes the sendmail.cf, which looks like a lower-level type of language. :)