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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 15:10:19 -0400 Organization: None of the above Lines: 37 Message-ID: <87tt79kodg.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> References: <vs17id$21gj2$1@dont-email.me> <vs1m78$26rhi$2@dont-email.me> <vs2glq$35mlr$2@dont-email.me> <b5t9ujtrk4ph0rcl8stghedkbcmv2ho64q@4ax.com> <vs3uvg$la27$1@dont-email.me> <87iknsq422.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vs751k$3k5eb$1@dont-email.me> <87o6xkmwqn.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <5rteuj1mr9a65enuv3jqj7sfmpgurreaqs@4ax.com> <vs92mm$1j1nq$2@dont-email.me> <m4qvduFb17oU1@mid.individual.net> <p83hujhub0kjjqbldnkenuod55mq8uu4nt@4ax.com> <vsa9hq$2ret2$1@dont-email.me> <ofihujd2o07rbh7crvbght0v8q35emp49b@4ax.com> <87iknpxigi.fsf@mothra.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <vsel0o$p14u$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d953c05f42d50874b33a5dab3f444fea"; logging-data="1083078"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ote9zPvSHL0awu5tQ5Jkb1P5wkibagIk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gK301AiV1VSBBvQr91fZKwalkQ8= sha1:3ttXylvpWIV24XzcNTky8ISkcxA= Bytes: 3152 Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> writes: > On 3/31/2025 12:39 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: >> Actually I was talking to Mr. Krygowski. It seems to me that his >> standards for studies on flu shots are different to those for bike >> helmets, and I was curious as to what had convinced him of the efficacy >> and safety of flu shots. > > As I said, there is nationwide, ~ whole population data indicating flu > vaccines have high effectiveness in preventing infection and/or > hospitalization. There is no such nationwide data for bike helmets, > and indeed nationwide data shows no apparent benefit. And there are > serious weaknesses in many or most helmet promoting studies. Could you provide a link to that data, and its analysis? > But more important, in my mind, is that helmet promoters almost > without exception falsely portray simple bicycle rides as an important > and serious risk for serious brain injury. (By not promoting helmets > for pedestrians or motorists, they imply that cycling is a bigger > risk.) Yet any unbiased examination of TBI epidemiology shows that > cycling is not an unusual TBI risk. In fact, you're much more likely > to get a serious case of influenza than to suffer a serious TBI from > riding a bike. > >> On every topic I can remember, save bike helmets and infrastructure, >> Mr. Krygowski tells us to believe the annointed experts. > > :-) Of course, your memory is limited! > >> For what it's worth I think Mr. Krygowski is closer to right than wrong >> on the subject of bike helmets... > > Thank you. --