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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:22:07 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <87tt8pjtq8.fsf@example.com> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <RiKsP.173075$l629.51307@fx10.iad> <ae0c61cc-9814-04ab-75d4-f8d4cacdc9cd@example.net> <67b4fc88@news.ausics.net> <eli$2502181846@qaz.wtf> <67b659f8@news.ausics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 02:22:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="793b91bc6c42beaf498ae631bb409d44"; logging-data="2655953"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18tAB+0/nntYZlaAFu3+VSI8LRtEuFp52w=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:2zlpEreMdRqViB9k7yqmRmNoBbE= sha1:VXP1uepWuMr06d4YnqGWYKW/MPI= Bytes: 2251 not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes: [...] >> Lately I've been seeing people advocating for a switch to >> Codeberg. > > I don't know about Codeberg, but there have been lots of > alternatives all along. Tons of projects switched from SourceForge > to GitHub. Many projects have their own websites too, so why not > self-host? GitHub do offer a lot of extra features for free, but > that's dealing with the devil IMHO. Especially as the more tied in > to GitHub-specific systems a project gets, the less practical it is > to move away if M$ get more greedy later on. We have no idea what the future of Github will be, so it's time to stop investing on it. I think we really need to produce software (and entire systems) that we can use on a peer-to-peer basis. Instead of Github or Codeberg, I think we need to create a web of Forgejo, Gitea et cetera. Similarly, NNTP servers and IRC servers instead of Discord et cetera. I think the best things we've done have been decentralized. I know that this grass roots things never look as shiny as the commercial ones, but I'm certain that they're much better in the relevant aspects.