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From: Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Lost your home? Car? Everything? Thank a bicyclist and the California road diet.
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 14:57:19 -0500
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Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> writes:

> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 1/21/2025 12:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 1/21/2025 11:12 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 09:07:20 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/21/2025 7:01 AM, Shadow wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2025 12:48:33 +0100, Rolf Mantel
>>>>>> <news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> San Francisco or Oakland to LA is only an hour on commercial
>>>>>>>> aircraft. The same to Las Vegas and only a half hour more to Arizona
>>>>>>>> and only a half hour more than that to Denver. Trains simply do not
>>>>>>>> work with the distances between major cities in the US. Too bad, I
>>>>>>>> do like railroads.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the contrary, exactly those are the distances that work on
>>>>>>> high- speed
>>>>>>> trains.  "One hour on commercial aricraft" means a total
>>>>>>> travelling time
>>>>>>> of approx. three hours "city-center to city-center"; a "2:40 non-stop
>>>>>>> travel time" by train as planned on completion of phase 1 would
>>>>>>> kill the
>>>>>>> air market completely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I agree. You waste over an hour going to the airport and
>>>>>> passing through the secret state police. And when you reach your
>>>>>> destination, it's usually at least 30 mins to the center of town. Two
>>>>>> wasted hours.
>>>>>>     I presume train passengers would not be subject to "homeland
>>>>>> insecurity" groping. Unless one of the CEO's from the "air market"
>>>>>> paid someone to plant a bomb. The usual "take me to Cuba" excuse would
>>>>>> not work.
>>>>>>     []'s
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here, the Stasi have infested the trains as well:
>>>>> https://www.amtrak.com/tickets-id-safety-security
>>>>
>>>>     That's about crossing borders to another country. I think
>>>> that's reasonable. Lots of criminals try to avoid prosecution by
>>>> crossing borders .... over 100 of Bolsonaro's followers fled to the
>>>> US. I have no idea how they got permits, most of them do not work, and
>>>> many of them are criminals linked to drugs trafficking, prostitution,
>>>> money laundering and contraband.
>>>>
>>>>     I mean being searched to travel in your own country.... that
>>>> should not happen in a "free" country.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not go to airports, and even to pick up or drop off
>>>>> someone; I remain in my car in the parking area.
>>>>
>>>>     Well, I used to have to travel by plane.
>>>>     When traveling in Brazil I prefer 1) A train - if available.
>>>> There are very few passenger trains left
>>>>     2) A bus. They are usually comfortable and have air
>>>> conditioning.
>>>>     3) Ugggh a plane
>>>>
>>>>     That's if I have transport on the other end. If I don't, I
>>>> just drive there. Trouble is, I'm getting too old to drive. The most I
>>>> can stay awake is about 12 hours. Then I just curl up and go to sleep.
>>>> I've woken up in a stalled car twice in the last 10 years....
>>>>     []'s
>>> Domestic Amtrak security protocols:
>>> https://www.ncesc.com/does-amtrak-have-security-check/
>>> 
>>
>> Well, that's not true at all. It may be a stated policy, but it's not
>> in use by any stretch of the imagination.
>>
>> My father likes to visit my sister in Georgia twice a year and is
>> partial to the Amtrak from Boston to Savannah (he transfers in either
>> new york, philidehphia, and DC, depending on the times he traveled)
>>
>> I drive him to the Amtrak station in Boston.  I help him with his
>> luggage to the platform, help him on the train, and make sure the
>> attendants understand his health issues. Upon his return I reverse the
>> process. We've been doing this for three years now (2x a year), and
>> not once has there ever been a security checkpoint or any attempt by
>> any TSA or Amtrak employees to screen him or me, check his or my ID,
>> or any attempt to restrict my movement in the terminal or getting on
>> the train even without a ticket. My sister has a similar experience in
>> Savannah.
>>
>> They may reserve the right to enforce some sort of security protocol,
>> but they haven't done it in either Boston or Savannah in the past 3
>> years.
>
> That was my experience boarding in Albany as well.  I had brought a
> passport thinking they might go all read-id on me, but in the event they
                                         ^ real-id
> didn't check a thing.  Could change overnight, who knows.

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